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Comment by Eliandor

Quite a doozy of an encounter.

Comment by 3629

Go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Twin_Emperors for a great tactic how to kill these guys.

Comment by Smorfty

Hunter specific tips:
- In my guild we have a warlock to pull caster-twin and a hunter to pull physical-twin
- Pull with aimed shot to get aggro (distracting shot won't work on him) and so that you don't loose aggro to healers
- When you've run over to mt use detecence if you have it (and aspect of the monkey ofc)
- When mt has hit the twin at least 2 times (preferably 3) you can feign death and join the others
- Hunters run right after teleport, not when melee'ers run
- No aimed shots after 5 sec warning to teleport, aimed shots might go off, follow the twin after his teleport and you'll aggro him right away
- NO MULTISHOT! remove it from your bar, even I have pressed it by mistake after having downed them about 6 times
- Only aimed shot and rapid fire are any good to cast here while nuking

Comment by 598

Vek'lor is the caster twin, he is immune to all physical damage and is usually tanked by a warlock with 315 shadow resistance. I was one of our two warlock tanks when my guild downed emps and i figured it would be helpful for me to share what shadow resistance gear i got and how.

Helm - Nemesis Skullcap (+10 SR)
Neck - Amulet of Shadow Shielding (+20 SR)
Shoulders - Felheart Shoulder Pads with Argent Dawn Shadow enchant (+12 SR)
Back - Cloak of Untold Secrets with +10 SR enchant (+30 SR)
Chest - Polychromatic Visionwrap (+20 SR)
Wrists - Nemesis Bracers Zero SR but they make up my 3 piece set bonus giving me +23 spell damage which is just as important in holding aggro
Wand - Serpentine Skuller (+10 SR)
Hands - Shadowy Laced Handwraps (+12 SR)
Belt - Runed Stygian Belt (+20 SR)
Pants - Runed Stygian Leggings with Shadow Guard Enchant (+35 SR)
Boots - Runed Stygian Boots (+20 SR)
Rings - I just picked up two +20 resist rings from the AH but if you have access pick up Ukko's Ring of Darkness for one ring (+40 SR)
Trinkets - The only amazing shadow resist trinkets come from having 300 engineering, the Ultra Flash Shadow Reflector but each trinket has +20SR and they are not unique so you get +40 SR total, possibly allowing you to remove one of your weaker pieces in favor of something with more stamina and spell power

All together that brought me around 249 and adding in the 15 SR from demon armor i was up to 264. Factor in the +60 from priest buffs brings it up to 324 which is over the maximum limit of 315 resistances. That gives me a 75% chance to resist the shadow bolts that come hurdling my way.

Comment by evoker

The Emperors are all about the initial pull. If the intial pull works and none of the MT or warlock dies in the first teleport then all you have to do is dps. Flask of Titans on warlocks and MT warriors would make your healers life very easy. Also if you are using Warlock tanks, have 1 paladin and 1 priest healing the warlocks so your MT healers don't risk getting Blizzard.

Comment by Larsson81

Yes, initial pull is 50% of the fight.
Well, basicly there are 2 main tactics:
Warrior only or warrior+warlock as tank; both work depends on the class setup.
We defeated them with the first tactic, but therefore you need lot's of melee damage. Caster are mainly used for clearing the bugs in this tactic. Flask of Titans is nearly a must because of the unbalancing strike and the high shadowbolts the tank has to eat. ;-)
Hints:
- Vek'lor can only cast Frostrain to a target within the range of 36 yards.
- Max 40 people can be in the room. Repbots and s.o. must be placed outside the room.
- No AE skills because of pulling little yellow bugs who can be really nasty. ;-)

Comment by Firehawk

was actually pretty fun to tank this fella. mindless searing pain spam but fun :>

Comment by Vlad

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'lor (sounds)

"It's too late to turn away."
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorItsTo0Late.wav")
"Like a fly to the web!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorLikeAFly.wav")
"My brother, no!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorMyBrother.wav")
"Prepare to embrace oblivion!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorPrepareTo.wav")
"To decorate our halls!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorToDecorate.wav")
"You will not escape death!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYouWillnot.wav")
"Your brash arrogance!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYourBrash.wav")

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'nilash (sounds)

"Ah, lambs to the slaughter!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashAhLambs.wav")
"Join me brother, there is blood to be shed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashJoinMe.wav")
"Let none survive!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLetNone.wav")
"Look brother, fresh blood!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLookBrother.wav")
"Shall be your undoing!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashShallBe.wav")
"Vek'lor, I feel your pain!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashVeklorIFeel.wav")
"Your fate is sealed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashYourFate.wav")

Comment by 313217

The lvl 80 way of doing things now is, each side respectively dot them up as much as you can. Still tanking them as close to each wall as possible of course. When they teleport, they will aggro on each of the sides they started on due to the amount of dots ticking on them, from melee as well as magical. Of course this causes them to pass each other on their way to each side once more, but at lvl 80 assuming, you do this at lvl 80 for the achievement like I did, the burst damage is amazing that the heals that they do in the end wont save them from a total downing.

Comment by Sallara

I cannot stress how hard this is with PuGs, even if you are level 80s. You need to be very organised on the switches, or else the fight will go on forever.

Comment by rubyloc

A few of my friends and I had a bit of fun five or six-manning these guys when WoTLK had been out for a couple of weeks, much more entertaining than all the new five-man content - by far.

Comment by 145264

Best way to do this is use two pally tanks. They can take aggro on both of the mobs so the switch presents no problems. Then split up your dps with some physical and some caster damage on both sides for a steady kill.

Comment by nyctric

First defeated by Vodka of Mannoroth on the 29th of January, 2006.

Comment by 354046

These guys are still tough even at 80. I have gone in AQ40 with several PuGs, and if we can get past the first boss we can clear all the way to the twin emperors with no problems, but we never make it past them. It would take nearly a full raid of 80s to dps through the heals, so you still have to keep them apart. No room for error with that.

I was thinking that the best way to do it with a 70+ PuG would be to have your most skilled tank and dps caster on one side along with a healer, and everyone else on the other, without moving. That way there's no risk of the twins crossing or meeting each other, because with 10+ people (or however many are in your raid, less the three on the other side) you're basically guaranteed to aggro him in time. Few to no DoTs.

Your dps will be half what it usually is because people won't be moving to go after the one they can attack, but that seems like a small price to pay for not letting them heal each other, right? And the people not dpsing the closest boss can kill the bugs; you still need at least a little of that. So, thoughts? Alternate strategies?

Comment by 449533

The Splintered Hand, of Turalyon-EU, just five-manned the Twin Emps at 80 in a mix of heroic and Conquest gear.

Setup: warrior tank and resto shaman stayed on one side for the entire fight, holy priest plus arcane mage and druid tank stayed on the other. Physical tanks used aggro abilities to grab Vek'nilash on the switch each time as usual; mage and shammy picked up Vek'lor when he turned up on their respective sides. Priest kept the mage healed, shammy healed himself. Physical tanks picked up and despatched the bug adds while Vek'lor was on their side, since they had little else to do.

Be careful; the aggro after the switch can be very twitchy. In particular, it appears that a high-threat ability used immediately before the switch can dump threat onto an Emperor a split second afterwards (possibly due to latency) causing him to charge over to the other side of the room immediately. Both physical and magic tanks need to be aware of this and be ready to fire off some threat moves immediately; it helps if physical tanks position themselves along the path that Vek'nilash will take to get to his brother, so he has to come though you (and you're not chasing him around).

Most importantly, do not use DoTS. After the switch and subsequent aggro wipe, it would appear that the first action on each Emperor's threat table gains a large chunk of bonus threat. This, I believe, is what creates the impression that you can grab high threat through proximity aggro. But if a DOT ticks straight after the switch (even something relatively minor, like the burn effect from a Mage fireball) the tick will generate huge threat, and the Emperor will typically charge straight back across the room. With our Druid tank using Lacerate, for example, I couldn't pull aggro back even with a 9K+ Shield Slam. He had the same problem with my Deep Wounds.

We downed the Emps with two minutes left on the berserk timer; we didn't allow them to heal even once. It's doable, just takes a good deal of concentration. Good luck.

Comment by vertibirdo

Downed them in 80-lvl fun raid. Setup was dk tank, retri paladin, holy priest, elem shaman, surv hunter, mm hunter, frost mage.
Melee emperor was tanked by dk, magical by shaman.
Used tactics just like described- staying on platform, doing nothing, while emperors returned to their places after teleport.
The battle took about 3 minutes. Everyone was in equipment 200-232 ilvls.
The battle is really about pull only on 80-lvl. Wrong pull, and you can just wait until healer runs OOM.

Comment by NFalcon

Vek'lor and Vek'nilash pwn noob 80s. That is all.

(aka yes, tonight's pug sucked)

Comment by 533345

Killed them recently. Attempted them with two 15-ppl PUGs which I led. First failed and second was succesful.
In first PUG, we failed horribly because tank went and pulled Vek'nilash. I couldn't establish aggro on Vek'lor. This resulted in both being tanked in the same corner.

We attempted Twins again next day. This day we could position everyone correctly. I was tanking Vek'lor and warrior-tank was tanking Vek'nilash. There was an off-tank waiting besides me and another warlock waiting besides the warrior tanking Vek'nilash. Then we proceeded to down them both. They rarely got to heal eachother.

Anyway, remember that everyone has to be positioned correctly before you start. Remember to tell everyone their targets ( melee on Vek'nilash only and magic on Vek'lor ). You should have two ranged tanks ( warlocks are best for this ) and two melee-tanks. Tanks don't have to switch places, only dps has to.

Comment by 192758

Just 6 manned this whole raid on Arathor last night. 2 priests, holy and disc, Rougue, 2 pallys(One ret, one holy), and a DK.

The twins were a pain, but we just kept them tanked apart. Since they share health, we just had the paladin(Ret pally acted as second tank) and rouge dps the one that could take physical damage, while we healed the tank(DK) who had the magic one and dpsed the one that could take magic damage. When they switched, the pallys could still help damage the magic weak one, while we healed the tank who had the physical one. It took 3-4 tries, but we got it down.

Comment by 323714

obviously depends on who you have in your raid but if you ahve the group just pull both intot he middle and out DPS the heal, its not that hard really, only heals 30k a second

Comment by 616836

Even healers can tank Vek'lor at 80 if your group has only 5 people. On my Holy Priest, I just Mind Blast, Smite a few times, then spam heal myself to hold aggro. Be careful, though, if you're the only one on your side when you teleport, because Vek'nilash may aggro onto you and he can hit fairly hard on cloth; I had to Guardian myself.

Comment by 575688

Currently trying to 2 man this encounter using 2 warriors
the amount of dps needed to get them down before 15 minute Berserk is 2405 dps TOTAL
we using 0/31/40 spec

using the 0/31/40 spec and being mostly 264 geared we managed to get them all the way to 13 %
when berserk hit , the Veklor Tank got smacked pretty fast since we where not ready with cooldowns and kinda messed up a bit and the best attemt was far from perfect..

going with some dps trinkets and dps gear for next attemts and i thik we got it since incoming damage is MORE the manageble

you simply use Bloodthirst to regen health on all the small bugs on the floor while tanking Veklor
the threat from that roughly 1.1k heal per hit + the 5k initial threat you get after teleport is more than enough to hold aggro ;) T10 4 set bonus and the Corroded skelleton Key helps loads aswell(using this/theese at the end of Veklor tank period)

Enragedregeneration we used for backupheals while tanking Veklor only (using it when tanking veknilash will most likely overaggro the veklor tanks Threat and force a pull aggro so dont do that is a bad idea )

when Veknilash comes to your side use Retaliation and Deathwish whn possible combined with improved revenge (killing the adds at the same time) and the dps needed is possible to achieve ;)
its all about getting it *perfect' and stopping your dps in the EXACT right moment to get as few seconds as possible with 0 dps (getting a hit on Veknilash yust as they teleport can be a disaster since the attack can actualy hit the target after he has teleported to the other side )

GL to ANYONE attemnting this 2/3 man i can promise you 15 minutes of shear fun ;)

i never got this done at lvl 80 due to my companion not having the time or desire to do it anymore
but now at 85 me and my holy pally friend pulled this off pretty easy ;)
stil an awsome 15 min fight , though not as much of a challange as it was at lvl 80

Have Fun !

Comment by 357882

Last night we 3 maned Twins, your grp was, Prot paladin, Deathknight in tanking gear Frost spec, Resto shaman in Elemtal gear,

I (the paladin) started vek'lor while the Deathknight started on vek'nilash

Dk pulls Nilash (the melee one) all the way to the wall, I Just do exo and range attacks on the caster,
after the Teleport, Lor will be at the wall with the dk tanking him thus making him only being knocked back at the wall and able to melee, with out any problems, While I Take Nilash to a wall , thus making every teleport the caster will only knock us at the wall so making it very easy to melee etc,

The shaman alway's follows Vek'lor he does more dmg since we can avoid most of the attacks on vek'nilash,(melee one) there shouldn't be any healing pressure, 1 heal per teleport is more then enough + with the shaman following vek'lor he'll be able to dmg him aswell,

paladin make sure your not using seal of truth the dot might Aggro him, back to you after the teleport,

I can imagen to paladins 2 maning this easily most of our ability's work on both of them. "Judgment seal dmg and Avenger's Wrath and even Shield of the Righteous works on both of em

We had 5 mins left of Enrage we' were average 264 I hope this helps ya,

Comment by 697715

This encounter is able to be 2-manned - we duo'd it last night with myself as a feral tank in a mix of gear ranging from 232-264s and blood DK in ICC25 gear. (Shock, not two paladins!)

The fight was fairly simple but with not much room for error. We pulled and kept the emperors on the two platforms, obviously tanking them with our backs to the wall. We remained stationary, and simply immediately picked up the emperor that teleported to our side; this switching was the key to staying alive without heals.

The fight was essentially the same on both sides. During Vek'lor we would just focus on staying alive. (I was able to pop out and heal, and we both needed to use cooldowns). We would then use Vek'nilash to heal up (Leader of the Pack, Death Strike), and DPS them down (since we both had primarily physical damage). So for each of us it alternated between stay alive, self heal/dps, stay alive, etc. Did this for 12 minutes, and epic win.

Some things that we noticed:
- You need to be with your back to the WALL. Both platforms have a sort of alcove or corner, and you want to avoid tanking them there as much as possible. We did this for a while because it minimized knockback, but this seems to lag their teleportation a few seconds, eliminating the short time window to grab threat and allowing one to run to the other. In the end this left too much room for error.

- Kill Vek'linash's mutated scarabs. It just lessens the incoming damage.

- Be quick to grab aggro. This meant Icy Touch/Faerie Fire for Vek'lor and whatever physical attack was up for Vek'linash. We didn't hit the enrage timer so we would have been able to manage some heals, but the issue was that once one they started running to the other it was almost impossible to separate them again.

Fun stuff!

Comment by 64664

Should be an aditional achievement, killing them when they go frenzy.

Comment by GarryKE

I went there with two guild mates last night and remembered something from a long, long time ago. Make sure you kill the guard NPCs outside the Twin Emperors' room or they come on in and make a gigantic mess all over the floor.
But personally, I've always found that as long as they are tanked apart, it's easier - personally. Try and have at least one healer if you're not so confident with what you're doing - or use a spec that will help you to heal yourself like Warlocks: they can Life Tap for mana then to heal themselves have Drain Life, Death Coil and the DoT spell, Haunt. That's for Affliction though, I don't use and know Demonology enough to know much about it, I'm more an Affli/Destro person.

Comment by leyellowdart

Duo'd the Twin Emperors last night as a rogue and feral druid. Omen threatmeter was a huge help in tracking threat on Vek'lor.

On the pull I (the rogue) engaged Vek'nilash and tanked him on his platform. I kept recuperate rolling both to actually heal up from Unbalancing Strike/melee hits and so that when the teleport happened I'd get some healing aggro on Vek'lor in the first second or two. The feral kept aggro on Vek'lor whenever they were on the same platform by chain casting Faerie Fire.

On the teleport, the druid would hold off until a few ticks of recuperate went off and then auto-attack Vek'nilash. I kept 1-2 combo point recuperates going from the scarabs and scorpions around my platform to maintain aggro on Vek'lor. If I noticed the druid catching up to me on Vek'lor's aggro table (from leader of the pack procs) he would stop auto-attacking; his added damage to Vek'nilash wasn't necessary, he just did it because he was bored standing there and to speed things up a little. The druid-Vek'lor rogue-Vek'nilash phase is when the real damage is done to the twins; the druid-Vek'nilash rogue-Vek'lor phase is all about maintaining aggro and positioning.

At one point the druid was hit by an Unbalancing Strike knockback and flew off his platform. He took some not-insignificant fall damage that he had to heal up, during the much tighter recuperate tanking Vek'lor phase, which was the closest I came to losing aggro on Vek'lor. So try to keep your back to the wall. Not right up against it though; I noticed a couple of times when I was fighting Vek'nilash right against the wall and a teleport happened, Vek'lor didn't appear for a few seconds until after I moved away from the wall. If recuperate wasn't running and the druid got a Leader of the Pack proc in that time, I would likely have lost aggro and been unable to get it back. So I'd recommend standing with your back to the wall, but 5-10 yards away from it.

It took us ~8 minutes to down them, nowhere near the 15 minute enrage timer. Damage is no problem, it's just a matter of proper positioning and control of self-healing aggro to keep them separated.

Summary

Rogue keeps recuperate going at all times; healing through Vek'nilash and keeping aggro on Vek'lor. Quickening and Imp. Recuperate are recommended (a dedicated soloing/duoing spec most likely has these talents anyhow)
Chain cast Faerie Fire on Vek'lor when he's on the druid side
Druid can autoattack Vek'nilash when he's on his side; using abilities is not recommended as the extra Leader of the Pack procs become more likely to pull aggro from the rogue recuperate-tanking Vek'lor
Druid should stop attacking completely if he gets close to the rogue on Vek'lor's threat table
Keep your back to the wall as much as possible but not right up against it, especially when fighting Vek'nilash
As usual, NO DOTS during this fight. The damage they bring is not necessary and they just make things riskier if timed poorly

I hope to see more raid solo/duo kills that aren't just paladins and dk's! Good luck!

Comment by 124860

Duo'd as frost mage and enh shaman.

Mage on caster boss, pet behind it and start attack.

At swap pet got aggro so mage can heal (bandages/evocate) For fight keeping ice barrier and mana shield up.

Damage caster and near swap stop damage with dots.

Took about 8 minutes.

Comment by Nobbel

How to duo in Cataclysm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peqt9cAyOrU

Comment by 809536

Was able to solo today as elemental shaman Ilvl 359 4pt11, after about 3 hours of attempts.
Was able to solo by speccing points into resto Totemic Focus to allow for 3+mins on earth / fire elemental and laying them on opposing platform. starting off on non magic immune boss i was able to burn with flask + lust + pot + EM them down to roughly 30%, when melee swapped onto me fire elemental was able to pick up threat and hold magic boss on other side while i swapped to 2hnder with WF for kicks :P, 30-40 seconds later the caster boss ported back, i repotted , prepotted first time popped EM again and burned them down, all in all, took about 3-3.5 hours of trying, mostly waiting on Earth elemental cooldown. I'm willing to go on a limb and say that elemental shamans + warlocks are probably the only class that will ever be able to solo these 2.
my apologies in advance for bad grammar/english... i have been bashing my head on desk like this was heroic nefarian for last 4 hours :P.

Comment by Heresiarch

The solo Emperors attempt by Jider is being viewed as illegitimate by some persons, for several reasons:

As of one week after making the claim, there is still no clear explanation from Jider as to what kind of "clever timing" allowed the single pull. The elusiveness is suspicious.
The attempt took place on a PTR. This is a revealing strike against the legitimacy of this video.
It is generally accepted that both of these bosses are supposed to be pulled during this encounter. Pulling only one trivializes the encounter to the point where soloing it is unimpressive. (Okay, maybe that's a cheap shot.)

Jider has other, more impressive feats that are worthy of notice. I'm not picking on him because I have a vendetta against him. But the Emporer pull is fishy. It would be nice if Jider revealed his tricks of the trade so there wouldn't be so much aggression against him over this video.

If he's worried that represents an exploit which would have his account kicked, then he shouldn't have publicly made this claim in the first place. Or at least, keep the Emporer video cloaked in shadows until Blizz fixes the exploit.

Comment by 834848

Only boss I can't solo as a feral druid tank. And of course the final boss since I can't get to him. So yeah, really sucks. If anyone got a strat maybe that a feral druid can try, be glad to hear and try it.

Comment by Jickles

I found the comments on here very contradictory when trying to 2 man this encounter, so I thought I'd do my best to clear it up.

I 2-manned twin emps as an 85 warrior with an 85 warlock friend. The biggest issue for us was making sure to put DoTs up at all times - a few comments on here said no DoTs, and while this may be the case for classes with hybrid damage, because both of us could only damage one boss we had no issues with damaging the other bosses. We would make sure a DoT was up at all times (Rend and Corruption) and hit escape when the teleport happened, while tanking on their respective spawn platform.

When they teleport, the DoTs would grab aggro and they will run past each other back to you. Yes, they will heal, but we had no trouble out dpsing their heals and neither of us has spectacular gear.

Good luck.

Comment by 866854

Did this tonight with the following group: Ret Pally, Shadow Priest, Fury Warrior (myself), whom all were level 85.

We had a fair bit of trouble getting these guys down as one of the bosses is immune to magic attacks (Vek'nilash) and one is immune to physical attacks (Vek'lor). However this is how we pulled this fight off.

The Priest and the Warrior made their way over to Vek'lor while the Paladin ran over to Vek'nilash. Priest and Paladin dps accordingly while the warrior targets Vek'nilash. As soon as they teleport the warrior attacks V'n and the Paladin attacks V'l. Same process applies except the priest targets V'l awaiting the teleport.

We had a few mishaps with grabbing aggro which caused us to have to group together (which made them heal around 600k health) and wait for the teleport before quickly separating them again although we did eventually down these bosses.

Comment by 94939

Done tonight as an Elemental Shaman and two Hunters, MM and Survival respectively. 3 tries, and murdered.

I was too excited to have downed them to have put in a proper explanation.

Started with me and the MM hunter on Vek'lor. I picked him up and stuck my back to a wall and just started to unload. The Survival Hunter had out the Challenge Crab from firelands and picked up Vek'nilash. The crab tanked and just spammed mend pet over and over again.

When the teleport happened the MM hunter sent her pet in on Vek'nilash and I just used my staff to smack him around a few times until the next switch. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Comment by 111007

For T2.5 Gearhunters, these guys are not possible to solo unless you have a pet that can live (tank) one while you kill the other. I have not tried this with a hunter or lock, but any other class will not have the means to keep them separated, so you're dealing with two 30k heals every ~1s. Not possible to produce 60kdps.

Very easy to 2 man, even if you don't every swap positions after the teleport. Just let them walk through the center, heal a bit and dps them down. Pretty much any combo works.

Comment by 534473

Okay, soloed this as a TG fury warrior (ilevel 381), using my standard pve gear/spec (which does include blood craze and bloodthirst glyph). Basically, you just do this by putting a *very* strong nuke into whichever boss you can damage and still having some self healing to keep yourself alive. This is unlikely to work if you have mixed damage types (both physical and magical). Couple of important notes:

-To avoid the knockback, stand right in the corners between the stairs and the raised areas. I tried the corners at the very back, but they seem to somehow knock you back out of them if you use those.

-You will want to get some kind of damage into BOTH emperors and not just one. If you don't, you will only be able to loot one of them (confirmed from my own kill).

In contrast to the above poster, and I'm only guessing, but I doubt a death knight would be able to solo this because blood lacks the basic DPS requirement and frost/unholy wouldn't be able to focus that much physical damage into Vek'nilash or magical damage into Vek'lor.

Comment by 575688

A Video showing this encounter completed by 25 lvl 60 players in Cataclysm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOHR4y7rKk

Comment by 696346

Here's a quick and easy to understand guide to 2 manning these bosses:

For this fight you'll need one player that can do a physical DoT, and one player who can do a magic-based DoT. Both players should start the fight on opposite sides of the room, the magic player on the left side (on the boss that's immune to physical damage) and the physical player on the right (on the boss that's immune to magical damage). You can tell the bosses apart because the one that takes magical damage has a staff, and the other a sword. Don't worry if the magic DoT player primarily does physical damage because the two bosses share a health pool, so the physical player can do all the dpsing.

When you begin, immediately throw your dots up, and make sure they stay up the whole fight. Start your dps as usual. Be sure to keep your back against the wall due to Arcane Burst. Every thirty seconds the two bosses will switch places using Twin Teleport and their threat tables will reset. Both players should remain where they are, the DoTs will cause each player to regain threat on their respective boss causing it to run back to the player. When the bosses cross paths they will heal a little with Heal Brother, but not enough to make the fight unbeatable.

If you're a class that has a magic based DoT but does physical damage (like a death knight) be sure not to touch your partner's boss when it teleports because you might pull the boss by doing more threat than your partner's DoTs. (The same applies to pets like the warlock's Felguard, put em away for this fight.) If this happens, or for some other reason one player acquires agro on both bosses, don't panic. Have the other player run over and pull their boss off you, kiting it back to its original side. When they switch again, stop moving and follow the previous instructions until the bosses have run all the way back to the player they're supposed to be on.

Comment by Mydge

Yeah. Big suck as a druid.

I gave it a go (85 ilvl359 tank). They dont hit particularly hard. Even after I decided to give up... it took them a long time to kill me without being in any form.

Immune to skull bash.
Couldn't separate them.
Vek'Lor seemed to be immune to any hits when they were together.
Vek'nilash was being healed about every 10 seconds for 30000.

Maybe using Root but with all the knockbacks you would have to set it up pretty good.

Be interesting to see if any druids can kick the twins ass!

Comment by 923638

Duo killed these tonight with 2 balance druids.
At first we had a lot of problems with this boss. We tried some of the tactics suggested here - keeping the distance, with dots, no dots, etc - but ended up wiping every time.
So we decided to just ignore the adds and the distance thing, and go full nuke. Surprisingly they went down with no problems. We had about 37.8k total dps, and had to put lifebloom on only once.

So a tip for anyone having problems killing these two: ignore everything and just burst them to death. The dps at lvl 85 can easily overdps the 30k healing every 10s. It might be easier for classes that can heal themselves and for mail/plate users who take less melee dmg, but it should certainly be doable with any 2 dps classes with this tactic.

Comment by Wulfrick

They don't do 30k heal every 10 seconds, it's every 2 seconds (just got done watching the green flashes of light and the health bars go up ... "one one thousand, two one thousand ... *poof*), so your dps has to be 15k just to break even with their self-heals (meaning you're getting nowhere fast). On top of that 15k dps that merely counteracts their self heals, you have to deplete their health pool faster than they deplete yours. Figure that rate out and you'll have the bare minimum dps you'd have to pull off to down one before he downs you. Solo? I find that very hard to believe even for a full-best-in-slot lvl85 (other than the aforementioned "glitch"). Vids or it didn't happen.

Comment by Nobbel

A video guide I made on how to solo the Twin Emperors as a 85 Retri Paladin (No exploits).
Tbh it's more to prove that it's possible then a guide. All you need is high enough dps to out dmg the healing that they do while being able to stay alive.

Hope it helps!
Nobbel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQQk-57x8Wc&hd=1

Comment by Nobbel

How to: Solo Temple of Ahn'Qiraj (AQ40) 4.3 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_5EpBdJHA4&hd=1

I show you how to solo all of them, but I don't kill Viscidus & C'thun myself.
It also explains the tactics for when you want to do it with a couple of friends.

Also includes information about mounts & reputation.

It took me around 31 min and I earned around 613g.

I hope it will help :)

Nobbel

Comment by 947548

Solo'd easily as a blood DK in 382 ilvl dps gear.

Just pull them both into a corner so when they teleport they do not move out of melee range and just unload on the physical one. I was able to do about 10-15% every DRW cooldown, and if I was sitting on an unholy or death rune I'd throw up a necrotic strike for good measure.

Kill took roughly 11 minutes.

Comment by MABGamer6407

BY Far the Most irritating Boss's In Game! Out Of any boss Even The Lich king can't Beat these 2 strategy wise! to some it maybe a piece of cake, but to us we just could not get them down. it was only when i got on my main horde that we actually beat them. an it was mostly 85s lol.

For 85s its best just to hammer at them, i noticed that 1 was on the platform an 1 was near center off room when we beat them so they don't need to be on there platforms to kill them as some may say, o at lest keep 1 of them near center an 1 on a platform if its too stressful to get them both to move. i was so happy to actually see them dead lol.

Comment by dontrike

This may be too soon to say, but this isn't possible to solo as a shadow priest. Even at 399 ilvl and Dragonwrath you can't keep up with the healing. Too many knockbacks and for some reason Pain and Suffering doesn't work so your Mind Flay won't refresh SW:P.

Comment by itsnotemy

Just solo'ed as Ret Paladin equiped ilvl of 395. This is quite a challenge, but as a previous poster stated, back them into a corner to eliminate the teleport problem. However, there are time where you will still get punted out of the corner, this is fine, just make sure to position yourself with back to the corner so you get knocked back. Every second counts. Use your cooldowns properly, and eventually they will go down. Just keep steady DPS.

Don't be discouraged! This will take a bit of time. I killed it in 12 minutes. For about the first 3 or 4 minutes, he stayed above 80%. It's just hoping he doesn't knock you out of the corner.

If you can't self heal, don't bother trying to solo this.

If you're a paladin as I am, just use Word of Glory to keep yourself above 30-40% life. They won't kill you with sacred shield talent, and lay on hands can be used twice since the fight will go beyond 10 minutes.

Good luck!

Comment by Alayn1

Posting to confirm that Twin Emperors are soloable by a level 85 Ret Paladin, ilvl 392.

It was a very long fight compared to others in AQ40 - it took about 12 minutes because of the healing done by the bosses and the requirement of healing myself. It could probably be done a little faster, as my strategy somewhat evolved throughout the encounter. No flasks or other consumable buff items were used.

Balancing damage output, self-healing, and reducing their heals is key to soloing this. My basic strategy was to damage Emperor Vek’nilash, constantly moving away from Vek’lor to reduce the number of heals on them as much as possible. Continuous movement was also required to move towards fresh groups of scarabs (which respawn - very important for healing). Divine Storm was used nearly every time it was up aside from when Avenging Wrath and Zealotry were active.

Constant use of Divine Storm and 3HP Word of Glory (whenever available) was necessary to keep my health up; quite a bit of damage is taken so every attempt to heal is necessary. I had Devotion Aura active, but looking at the statistics after the fight, Resistance Aura would have been a better choice because Vek’lor did ~62% of the damage. Approximately 92% of that was from his Shadow Bolts, so any Shadow Resist will be helpful.

Nearly all the net damage done to Vek’nilash was done during cooldowns (Avenging Wrath and Zealotry). Time in between cooldowns was mostly spent raising hit points back up and maneuvering. Boss health did not drop much (if at all) during this time. Therefore, time your cooldowns to use them AFTER their teleport so that no DPS time is wasted.

Fight stats are noted below for clarity:

Recount – Damage Done for Emperor Vek’lor 09:44:53-09:56:52

Damage Done: 18,936,660 (~26.2K/sec)

Healing Done: 1,498,827 (~2.1K/sec)
Heal Name Count %
Divine Storm x49 (48.9%)
Word of Glory x22 (41.9%)
Lay on Hands x01 (8.3%)
First Aid x03 (0.9%)

Damage Taken: 1,529,516
Player/Mob Name %
Vek’lor 61.6%
Vek’nilash 32.4%
Qiraji Scorpion 3.9%
Qiraji Scarab 2.0%

Comment by 193457

It's possible to solo these guys a Rogue now as well, although depending on your gear you may want to seriously buff up and/or reforge up to the expertise parry cap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRb0oD2-8is

Don't bother using Blade Flurry, except for any additional bug adds, or Killing Spree, as it will only teleport you to the back of the Twins, which means you'll be kicked away and thus effectively lose damage.
Also don't bother about poisons, the melee twin is immune, and the caster twin isn't even able to be hit by your melee swings to apply the poisons.

You also may want to use Feint to ease up on the healing required during the Blizzard.
Besides that, it's a simple matter of outdamaging their heal, and outhealing their damage, as for every class soloing this encounter.

I'm currently trying to determine if you're somehow able to make yourself eligible for Vek'lor's loot. You normally aren't, as you don't do any damage to him (and he drops the Rogue token). A single EZ-Thro Dynamite II cast at the beginning wasn't enough, although it did damage to him. Maybe Oil of Immolation will work, or I need to damage him before their last heal (which could turn out to be quite tricky).

Comment by healingenzo

394 Hunter and I can't solo this. Even when I boxed my 388 Resto druid. Sucks. This place kinda sucks with the mechanics. Know the mechanics & mostly I finish fights in 3-4 minutes - doing 25-30K. But I die first, learning who to attack etc.

Something more annoying than the Chess match in Karazhan.

Comment by Mendric

I triple box. Meaning I have just me at the keyboard, but 3 accounts running. I recently came back to wow and wanted to farm the one red mount and some enchants I don't yet have, so brought my toons to AQ40. Triple boxing is a lot of fun, but this fight was annoying, especially after getting lost in the other comments on dots. I blame lack of sleep, but here's a better explanation (I hope).

With DOTs:
IF, you are two manning this and both can toss up dots, then dots is the best and fastest method. That way once they teleport, you have aggro and they run back to you.

Without DOTs:
IF, you only have one dotter, or none, then the best way is to go to each side of the room (where they are), engage, then after they port, grab aggro despite not being able to damage. Sure you may not be able to do anything for 30 seconds, but that's fine.

If you have one tossing up dots, then aggro will ruin this fight and they'll join up and heal. SO, if you have a dotter on both ends, that's the best way. Not two dotters, then NO dots.

Comment by 575688

Movie showing a warrior Soloing Twin Emperors @ Cataclysm 4.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqIiDL7KWX4&list=UUgcm0Fnh1f94mcBHB9vmqig&index=1&feature=plcp

Roghly 26k Dps - 394 ilvl

Enjoy

Comment by 1011184

It can also be killed with 2 casters, i just did it with my lock friend (im an ele shammy) and we did pretty well! We ignored the healing and just pop lust and cds :)

Comment by Wowhelper1

Soloed as blood dk was only doing about 20k, but 95k death strikes wore them down took until 2 mins after enrage :) Oh and I'm in full cata pvp gear. Just make sure to pop rune weapon every time it is up along with ghoul. Good luck :)!

Comment by Bahthalend

Easily soloable as an arms warrior as long as you spec into second wind and don't AoE the scarabs. The heal from SW will basically make you invincible once your below 35% health.
All you have to do is stick to vek'nilash whenver he teleports and out dps their healing.

Comment by Larkster77

Easily soloable as a 90 warrior. Just dps hard on the physical twin...you'll outdo the healing with ease. Fight over in 1 minute 14 secs for me. They still do dmg :-p but Second Wind will keep you up if you get low.

Comment by Moosplauze

I killed them solo today in the seconad attempt with my ilvl 464 Frost Mage. The fight is pretty tense, because one of them keeps knocking you back so that you can only get 1 or 2 casts through between each knockbacks (only Ice Lance doesn't do the trick, you need some Frost Bolts in for the debuff and Frost Bomb for the extra damage, too). The fight took quite a while but with "Rune of Power" and "Ice Barrier" I didn't really have any health issues. Just make sure to get your back against a wall, so you land in your rune each time you get knocked back. I did a total of 18,5 million damage in that fight, due to their healing.

Comment by Kokiron

Solo'd these guys today as a 468 balance druid. Backed myself into a corner between the pillar behind Vek'lor and easily out DPS'd their heal. Throw a rejuv on yourself (and use Renewal if you get low, if you took that talent) and you'll be fine.

Strangely, though, when they died only Vek'lor's body remained for me to loot. Vek'nilash seemed to dissappear into thin air. I put in a ticket about it, so hopefully I'll get the other half of my loot.

Comment by Sketti11

If you don't kill the guardians before starting the boss fight. Have FUN :D

Comment by DarthEnder

Completely unsoloable as a rogue as, insanely, these things are still immune to Poison. So you can't dps enough to even hurt them through their heal.

Comment by 153508

Was able to solo these two with a 471 ilvl, BM spec hunter with lynx rush barrage and core hound, lusted and popped all CDs kept widow venom up just to reduce the healing

Comment by 316491

Its worth noting that while this boss is pretty easy to solo now, pulling them with the Anubis warriors in the previous hallway alive will also aggro them. You might still be able to kill the Emps when this happens, but will likely die shortly after. I suggest clearing them on your way in rather then skip them like I did my first attempt.

Also, for melee (or hunters) you will want to target Veknilash, and casters will want to target Vek'lor.

Comment by illiterate

Killed him as a 460 BM hunter. Stealth up into the corner, pop stampede, lynx rush, dire beast, rapid fire, readiness and he drops.

Comment by Thordros

A warning to would-be Emperor soloists and pet collectors:

You must hit both Emperors to receive loot credit for both Emperors.

For example, if you beat the encounter by only hitting Vek'nilash, Vek'lor will leave an unlootable corpse that despawns in a few seconds. That means you only get a half shot at your Anubisath Idol until next week.(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by Cakechart

Possible to solo as Enhancement Shaman, but very annoying. Tips:

- Stand with your back to a wall/in a corner so you can't be knocked back. Once you find a good spot, don't move
- Damage Vek'nilash at all times; he can only be damaged by melee damage
- Use Chain Lightning with Maelstrom Weapon when you don't need healing to get rid of the bugs and damage Vek'lor (only so you can loot both bosses)
- Don't use any totems except Healing Stream/Healing Tide, and no cooldowns except Shamanistic Rage/Heroism either, as he is immune to all your nature damage and will attack elementals, totems and wolves instead of you. This will lead to him healing while you can't reach him (knockback and 70% slow)
- Use Unleashed Fury (talent) and keep it up as much as possible
- Only use Stormstrike and Unleash Elements with Windfury on him
- Optional: Reforge haste instead of mastery

The fight took me 8 minutes and was quite annoying. When I tried to burst down Vek'lor instead with totems/wolves/ascendance he would not fall below 60% before I get knocked around/slowed and they teleport while healing, so this is the only way I made it work.

Comment by Daedredant

FOR SOLO TANKS

I realize that, in this day and age, everyone usually has a dps spec because they are the most versatile, and can solo things easier by zerg. However, If you're like me and only have a tank spec, or perhaps you decided to enter without really thinking of a strategy, because lets face it... lvl 63 bosses... really? Then FEAR NOT! There is a way around their healing ability. it just takes forever to do.

When the encounter begins, there will be an enrage timer. Now this timer was at 10 minutes when I looked at it, AFTER I pulled the bosses and then downed all the trash from the previous hallway. (oops) So I'm guessing the enrage is something like 12-15 minutes. which is an eternity I know. However low your dps may be, your survivability as a tank should keep you alive during the 8 minute enrage. So don't fret, and wait until they are enraged.

During the Enrage timer, they're healing ability will be significantly reduced and you should be able to kill them both after a looooo-oooong time of attacking them. Just focus on the Melee guy, and steer clear of the mage guy, when possible. It took about 20 minutes all together to kill this boss as a tank, but it is possible. Just don't lose heart and be ready at the enrage timer.

Happy Hunting :)

Comment by 1053846

They are indeed solo'able by feral druids, just did so on my ilvl 461.
I used natures vigil, incarnation, and the wild charge talents. It was tricky getting the mechanics down since it was my first time doing AQ40, but when they teleport immediately use wild charge and it will keep them separated, I also used the land shark and I'm not sure if it worked, but Vek'lor didn't immediately despawn so maybe it did, sorry I can't be very sure of that yet, but I will be running it again as the pet did not drop so I will try it again and come back with more details.
Hope this helps, Happy Hunting!

Comment by 752394

Just solod these 2 on my rogue. I just keep recup up, feint quite a bit. For the one that can only take magic damage I used shadow blades and hit him just a couple of times. I just kiting General Vek around the room, took maybe 20 mins, but It can be done. Can make a vid if a lot of ppl call BS, lol, just wanted to share this with ya'll

Comment by heliconius

a few minutes ago, downed those mofos with my hunter.
Used a tank pet (turtle shield ftw)and kept them busy in a corner of the room while I'm standing around the stairs, totally avoiding knocbacks and totally neglecting the frost aoe.
Picking healing glyphs, health potion, bandage, healthstone, etc. helps a lot to survive the duration. You don't take spikey damage but you wouldn't want to spend another 15 minutes because of a careless moment.
Around 7-8 minutes they started to take a little more damage but still not fast enough, and after 13-14 minutes they started going down fast and the whole encounter lasted around 15 minutes.

Edit: A week later I see that the heal nerf is hotfixed. Now you can outdps the heal and the whole fight takes a few minutes without anything to worry at all.

Comment by 1060694

Solo'd as a 90 Demo Warlock (480 ilvl) with Imp as my pet. Focus fire on Vek'lor, I popped another Imp off Grimoire of Service, Wild Imps and Doomguard . This was enough for me to dps through the heals.

Comment by mudax

I can confirm - Twin Emprerors can be defeated solo by a rogue (did it as lvl90 Combat Rogue in ~8min).
Was attacking primarily melee target (Emperor Vek'nilash) kiting him around the room.
When pushed back used Shadowstep to get back to target fast (watch your target as they switch places).
Highly recommend using Recuperate and Feint as these help staying alive.
For loot purpose used also Shadow Blades once on caster (Vek'lor) as suggested by others.

Comment by dustdog

No idea how death knights were able to do this in cata, I was not able to do this pre-nerf at 90, took too much damage as DPS, and barely outdpsing the heal as tank, but I'm far from the best DK in the world. Was able to do it as tank spec with 463~dps gear post-nerf, necrotic strike useful for sucking up healing.

Comment by Oopschefe

You can now solo this fight at lvl 90 as long as you have a good amount of DPS and good survivability. A DK friend of mine solo'ed this by only meleeing Emperor Vek'nilash and casting Death Strike every now and then. Army of the Dead can also be usefull as long as you keep the room clear of adds.

Comment by 734571

i just soloed this on a lvl 90 rogue by focusing on vek'nilash, but forgot to use shadowblades, so no corpse for vek'lor =(

Comment by 911103

Soloed Twin Emperors as an Affli Warlock with Voidlord.

Talents: Dark Regeneration, Mortal Coil, Dark Bargain, Unbound Will, Grimoire of Supremacy, Archimonde's Vengeance
Glyphs: Demon Training, Soul Shards, Siphon Life

Tactic:
OMG, I hate those Bosses...
You should tank Vek'lor, which is immune to physical dmg and your Voidlord should tank Vek'nilash, which is immune to magical dmg. Easier said than done. Every 30-40sec, the 2 Twins will switch places. There is a complete aggro wipe and the Emperors will attack the closest person to them, who will receive a big amount of threat. Vek'lor uses Arcane Burst, which will knock back your Voidlord after switch and slows its movement speed by 70%. Whenever the Twins get within 60 yards of one another, they will spam heal each other - nuke Emperor Vek'lor and watch how slowly dies. Remember that before you pull the Bosses it is necessary to clear the trash in the room before their room! Good Luck and Have Fun!

With patch 5.1 Twin Emperors became easier to solo - recast time for Heal Brother has been increased to 3sec (was 2). In addition, they can now drop Anubisath Idol.

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDeWnu8utcQ

Comment by 1039696

I tried to solo this fight as a ilvl 452 survival hunter without knowing the mechanics and, of course, it gave me serious trouble. I was was trying to out-DPS the healing, knowing that I should be able to do it, but was surprised to find I was doing less than half my usual DPS.

Of course, as hunter, your DPS is split between physical and magical damage. How I handled this fight simply was to switch to a marksmanship spec and only fire shots that caused physical damage (and to always target Vek'Linash. Steady Shot and Aimed Shot, along with all of my talents and cooldowns, were enough to take him down. (I tagged Vek'lor with Serpent Sting as I'd heard you may not get credit for him without attacking him at least once.)

Comment by jonamur

Solo'd as a 470 arms warrior.

Just went mad on the melee guy blew all cooldowns and DPS'd him down in a couple of minutes. Did enough damage to easily overcome the healing from the other guy.

But as I only hit the melee one, the other one just despawned, not sure if that affects the loot or not?

Comment by Daherado

Casters be aware!
If you're using a wand as your main hand weapon, it wont count towards kill credit for Vek'nilash, as they cast magic damage of various types. Make sure you have something stabby or bashy to hand just in case you dont have a comparable weapon. Just managed to solo these guys on my warlock and completely forgot that i had a wand equipped...
As stated, Vek'nilash remained unlootable and despawned a few seconds later.

Comment by 626994

Doable as a tank geared ilvl 405 fury warrior @lvl 86. Killed it in ¬5min with about 17k dps.
Second wind is mandatory, keep the healing debuff up at all times and be sure to have your back to a wall so you don't get bumped.

Comment by Kopuliak

soloed playing affli lock.Just dotting + MG Vek'lor, completly ignoring second boss and rest of mobs.Well, after all, Soulstone helped me to avoid running from GY.

Comment by togahsisoka

Still pretty freaking impossible as a lvl 85 in MoP gear Guardian Drood...

Comment by 1062352

i just solo killed these guys on my 90 hunter. backed myself into the corner near vek'nilash. i pulled him and dps'd him until vek'lor reached my side. switched to him and blew all my cooldowns. it only took 1 minute and 50 seconds and i got to loot both emperors.

Comment by Nawin04

Elemental shaman => walk to the wall on Vek'lor's side put down stormlash ,go ascendance -> Vek'lor = > dead free pet :D

Comment by xXxSynyster

Do NOT skip the Anubisath Defender before the boss. They will pull if you aggro the boss.

Comment by Arbron

Something I've noticed about this fight is that you cannot loot one of them bosses if you don't damage it at all. This means warriors cannot damage Vek'lor (immune to physical) and thus cannot loot the pet without help. No other class has this restriction, unless rogues can't apply their poisons either.

Comment by meth0d123

You have to hit both to loot both corpses, Okay. But how can I do that as a Warrior, when Vek'lor is immune to melee damage? Any suggestions?

Comment by longslowgoodbye

rogue 90, itemlvl ~460.
tried and had to vanish two times in assassination, changed to combat and took the advice of using feint + shiv heals, concentrated on that and they went down.

Comment by jueb

Took 17 min to solo these guys as a Protection Warrior, Didn't get the pet :(
Going again next week for my Anubisath Idol and Viscidus Globule :D

Comment by draco2000

For all you pet lovers out there, this is soloable. Prot warrior heroic MoP dungeon/vendor gear. Just back up into a cornor and dps the melee boss. You'll slowly but surly dps thou teh heals. Takes forever and use your cd's including sheild barrier but it is do-able.

Comment by Daherado

Just knocked this over for my 2nd time this week, this time on my arms warrior, didnt take long.
Notably, before i pulled i had to stop and think what i was going to hit Vek'lor with, i'd forgotten my G91 Landsharks and didnt have mats to make any in my bag.

The trinket Ban's Bag of Bombs didnt work, it didnt even pull Vek'lor when i lobbed it in his face (even though, strangely enough, the damage did tick up on my screen)
I soon found that the Goblin Dragon Gun, Mark II does work though. Made with engineering and, like the G91 Landshark, not soulbound and usable by non-engineers.

When they did die, i noticed there was more to loot, and Vek'lor's corpse was clickable, unlike previous times when i'd popped cat form to hit Vek'nilash on my balance druid.

The loot was;
Vek'nilash's Circlet
Vek'lor's Diadem
Greater Scarab Coffer Key x2
Qiraji Lord's Insignia x2
Formula: Enchant Cloak - Subtlety
Formula: Enchant Gloves - Threat
Grasp of the Fallen Emperor
Qiraji Execution Bracers

Edit: just tried to do this on my Death knight and Daaaaaang! thats a seriously hard fight! The problem being DK dps is divided between magic (frost and shadow mainly) and physical damage. Whichever spec i used i was barely out-dpsing the healing. it took me 21 mins in the end, as blood, purely because Vengeance overcame the healing when he'd enraged...

Comment by MarkOfAntares

Just soloed the Twin Emporer's as a Destro Warlock. I just made sure to keep my Voidlord on Vek'nilash while I burst down Vek'lor. Pretty easy, took about 10 minutes and one attempt.

Basically, you need to be able to burst through their Heal. At first I was trying to keep them far apart, but I found halfway through the fight we were all in the middle.

The key is burst. Totally doable, I'd say.

Comment by 74134

This is is a complete joke to solo for a BM hunter and a Frost DK in dps gear.

My hunter I arcane shot the Vek'lor then blew all my CD's on the Vek'nilash and he died in under 1 min.

My blood DK it was not as quick but I frost touched Vek'lor and just dps'ed through the heal on Vek'nalish.

Both times I was able to loot Vek'lor but no pet either attempt.

Comment by Rommon

Just to remind all you rogues out there, this fellow can be hit while using Shadow Blades, so you can tag him for the extra loot.

Comment by Diodor

If you are a frost dk dont even bother trying to solo this. Vek'lor will constantly knock you back so he is not a valid dps target for melee and Vek'nilash is immune to frost dmg, you cant apply disease on him, frost strike wont generate blood tap stacks etc. Just spec blood and you will be able to outdmg their healer and kill them in about 5 min.

Comment by TegoZanduba

A macro Blood Death Knights can use is

/target Emperor Vek'lor
/cast Outbreak
/target Emperor Vek'nilash

This is because Vek'lor is susceptible to your magical diseases and not your melee and with the one button you can then target him quickly, cast your Outbreak (both diseases at once) and then back to Vek'nilash with your melee attacks.

Why would you want to damage the other Emp? 1) So you get loot from him, 2) they share hitpoints between them so any little bit extra damage will help whittle them away.

Comment by Joyouslydead

Just did this fight on my fire mage (12/19/12) whacked Vek'nilash a few times with my staff at the start then blew all my cds & nuked Vek'lor. He went down easy & I looted him but I was then left with Vek'nilash still attacking me... swapped to a dagger that was in my bags & spent 8 or 9 minutes trying to melee him down with no luck. Went invis & he reset now I'm standing there looking at both of them again...I thought these guys shared a health pool.

Edit: OK I just engaged them again. This time they both went down but I was only able to loot Vek'lor ( only some gold this time as I looted all the good stuff when I killed him 10 minutes ago) must not have tagged Vek'nilash with the dagger...oh well. gotta do it again next week then.

Comment by N0083rP00F

I followed what was published here after I had my tail handed to me the first time round.
{ NOTE to self and others following in my hoofsteps: Always read WoWhead first before running in screaming Banzai - repairs are getting expensive }

Just did this on my Draenei Paladin armed with a Spear of Xuen+Windsong and Seal of Truth up.

For Retribution I recommend you keep Righteous Fury up and when ever they teleport switch just move 90 degrees away and he will follow you thus saving you some running and helping avoiding them getting too close as best you can.
If you are not able to keep them separated enough the healing will slow things down a lot but it is doable.
I also kept Righteous Fury in the cycle with Divine Storm replacing Templar's Verdict to help control the adds.

This was only my second try at this ever so I expect it to go smoother for more seasoned Paladins.

Comment by kjnsp4wn

My son and I went in and we wiped because we didn't know until we read about one on one fighting the two bosses. When we went back to the room with the 2 emperors the door was closed/locked. Did we do something wrong (other than wipe)? Does the door lock just because you lose the fight. Also, it doesn't show on my in-game calendar that I am locked in to the instance. We tried toreset...to no avail.

Comment by Ugluxx

Don't really know how you're all doing it but as of 5.1.0, as a Demonology Warlock lv 87 I find this fight absolutely impossible.

Even after managing to let the Void Lord tank the physical emperor, when they switch, a couple of heals are enough to bring them back to full life.

Comment by Furydeath

Any mages able to get both lootable? I've even melee the other one a few time's before killing them and he still despawns with no loot and according to wow head the pet is already a super low 2% now just cut that in half.

Comment by Malvenue

I did this as a lvl 90 DK figuring it out during the fight. While it seemed I couldn't hit Vek'lor with Plague Strike, I COULD hit him with Icy Touch and better yet, Outbreak which placed both diseases on him. Blood Boil hit him as well and refreshed the diseases so you could keep your attention on Vek'nilash, hitting him with Death Strike, Rune Strike, Heart Strike and even popping Blood Tap to Necrotic Strike.

Don't worry about berserk. I didn't and it didn't bother me one bit. Just pull them both into a corner and go to town. I'd advise against popping army or adds as they just pull the bosses away from you occasionally and it's a lot better if you don't move around.

Comment by stym

If you are planning to solo these guys with a rogue, I strongly recommend activating your combat spec, here's why:

You can only damage Emperor Vek'lor with non-physical damage, so the only way you can hit him is with Shadow Blades. That's once every 3 minutes, so assuming your poisons activate from it, you would not be able to keep the DOT running anyway. Hit Emperor Vek'lor once with Shadow Blades or, say, a G91 Landshark to get his corpse and focus on Emperor Vek'nilash.
Your poisons do not affect Emperor Vek'nilash. Ever. That's why an Assassination spec is not that good. You typically deal between a third and a half of your total damage with poisons in this spec. That means you will deal at best two-thirds of your regular DPS to Emperor Vek'nilash: You're in for a long fight.
I am not sure about Subtlety, but remember you can't really backstab him on a regular basis if you are doing this solo. Your DPS will be significantly worse than in a normal raid settings where you can systematically hit from behind.

Since Combat only deals about a sixth of its damage in poisons, you will still be dealing 5/6 of your regular DPS to Emperor Vek'nilash. Overall, that's the best option for you.

The data presented above was collected with recount, based on the generally accepted rotations for both Assassination and Combat. Your personal experience may vary, although I'd bet not significantly.

Edit: Relay what Vankartae pointed out: For the third time I used a Landshark, but this time I noticed I was not able to loot Vek'lor. It may be necessary to use Shadow Blades on Vek'lor after the last twin switch in order to be able to loot him. The recent hotfix (January 23, 2013) does not allow you to loot both emperors if the last time you damaged the other one occurred prior to a switch. I had hopes that Vek'lor would still "remember" getting tagged by my first landshark, but no dice.
Edit2: I did it again last night, using Shadow Blades on Vek'lor after the last switch and was able to loot Vek'lor (who dropped the Anubisath Idol for me ^^).
You still need to damage Both emperors after the last switch in order to loot them both.

Comment by pepeu

This might be worth mentioning. This guy drops the Anubisath Idol pet. But his brother Emperor Vek'nilash does NOT. This can be quite good to know so you can plan your attacks accordingly so you don't end up killing/looting the wrong guy.

Comment by Rumbuddy

Soloed it as a 90 frost mage/ilvl 468 on the first try, I couldn't believe it. Especially after reading all the dual tank strats.

Here's what I did:

- Buff up a Pandarian banquet.
- Get your minion out.
- Blow your cooldowns right away. My spec: Incanter's Ward, Frost Bomb, Mirror Image, Icy Veins, Time Warp, everything, keep them up when off CD.
- Ice Barrier, Cold Snap for specced heal, Evocation for glyphed heal. Watch out because they knockback all the time. Evocate when they've knocked you all the way across the room and they have to run over to you or you've wasted a CD.
- Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt away, Frostfire Bolt and Ice Lance when they proc.

I didn't have any potions with me. I didn't have time to use my Heavy Windwool Bandages.

Finally the main strat: Focus on the mage. He heals and heals and heals but keep at it and you'll burn through him. Ignore the melee guy hitting you, Ice Barrier and pop self-heals through it. You will get it! Good luck!

Comment by 1075602

Managed to solo the twins with my combat rogue, hitting Emperor Vek'lor with Shadow Blades after the last Twin Teleport and killing Emperor Vek'nilash. But unable to get loots from Vek'lor and still unable to get Anubisath Idol.

Comment by Trubo

This comment is meant to be a reply to canadiantemplar's but not sure how to make it a reply. His comment that

You must hit both Emperors to receive loot credit for both Emperors.

does not necessarily imply that you have to deal damage to both Emperors. I have been soloing this semi-regularly since 5.1 went live on my warrior. Even though his weapon is enchanted with Enchant Weapon - Elemental Force, it does not proc to damage Vek'lor. However, I noticed that if I simply targeted Vek'lor for a minute or so spamming attacks, despite doing zero damage according to in-game combat logs and skada, when I kill Vek'nilash I get loot from both Emperors.

Comment by Zintarian

For Dks, following strat worked for me as of 5.1:
Tanked both in one corner beside one of the platforms.
Just spam as many necrotic strikes as you can on vek'nilash and dmg him at all times. use outbreak on cd on Vek'lor (idk if this is necessary as I was also heart striking the melee guy so the cleave dmg may or may not count).

The necrotic strike debuff will do wonders! Best to go frost spec as you get permanent death runes (necro strike requires death runes). You can stay blood spec and occasionally death strike to get the frost unholy runes to turn to death runes.

Good luck!

Comment by 1023644

Shadow Priest solo'd, was too easy! Just dot up Emperor Vek'lor and maintain damage on him then win!

Comment by 708922

Word of Warning, Hitting the melee only guy as druid cat does not give credit for loot :(

Comment by heftybags

Be warned AOE looting does not work on these two, after months of farming the pet and only looting Emperor Vek'nilash because I killed him first does not loot Emperor Vek'lor as well. You must loot each Emperor. I hit them both each time.

Comment by VSUReaper

Just solo'd the twins as a 87 destro lock, wanted to offer up my experience to other pet hunters.
Sorry in advance for the overload of information, but hoping non-locks will be able to glean something from what I did to help them.

First off, a pic of where I did the kill.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/VSUReaper/twinempsexplained_zpsc0afae00.jpg

I originally started by having my voidlord go and pull Vek'nilash, and then ordered him to stand (with back to the corner) in the corner by the stairs.
I had placed my Demonic gateways up so that I could rush to the other side with Vek'lor and just try to stay alive when they teleported back and forth with the stairs separating the bosses (keeping them out of range of heals, but in range for Soul Link to be active), but for whatever reason, I couldn't get Vek'lor's attention.

When I realized that they were teleporting on top of each other, and I had no way to pull one of them over to me, I decided to just try and see how long I could last and how much damage I could do to them. Took me a few minutes to realize that I could burn about 4% of their health down on Vek'lor before the heal would heal 3% of what I had just done. I stuck with it, burning all my CD's as often as I could and eventually got it.
Damage to me was mostly trivial - empowered bugs would come over and take a few swipes at me, and Vek'lor kept casting Blizzard on me. Most of the healing required came from my demon who was soul linked to me.

A few things to note:
- I had a cookie jar next to me for most of the fight - ended up using 5 of them.
- I used my Burning Embers for Ember Taps and Chaos Bolts - more ET than CB.
- Since I'm an herbalist, I used Lifeblood on CD, and at one point I fired off 3 CB's back to back and used a Life Spirit (herbalist item - counts as a potion) to bring us back up.
- I was also hitting Mortal Coil on CD (extra 15% heal).
- I summoned the TerrorGuard, but I dont think he did very much - he seemed to start to DPS, and then after a teleport just stood there and did nothing.
- My dragonling from my trinket on the other hand was extremely active.
- Only focused on Vek'lor, saw him getting about a 30k heal every 4-6 seconds - some comments on wowhead said that its a 60k heal.
- I MADE SURE I RAN OVER AND MELEE'D VEK'NILASH TO GET CREDIT FOR DAMAGING HIM AND TO GET ACCESS TO HIS LOOT TABLE!

My setup as a destro - I like to think I'm slightly above average with my gear/stat levels, but not 100% sure.
417 ilvl
208.4k HP
10,852 spell
13.9% haste
9.01% hit
16.96% crit
52.83% mastery

Items of note - I'm using a Rain Poppy Staff with Elemental Force (for killing Viscidius) and a Ghost Iron Dragonling (Hit/Haste/Mastery) and an Alchemist Stone.

Talents: Harvest Life / Mortal Coil / Soul Link / Burning Rush (not needed for this fight) / Grim of Supremacy.
Glyphs: Burning Embers / Demon Training / Siphon Life (extremely helpful!).

I hope all this info helps, if you have questions, please reply and I will try my best to answer.

Comment by Alyysha

Did this solo as an Arcane Mage, ilvl 482. I did nothing but stand there with my back against the wall and blast them. Didn't use any CD's, just my rotation. They will heal when they're next to each other, but I was able to easily DPS through it and I did loot them both.

Comment by RenderMan

Soloed with my mage tonight. 1/26/2013. Went frost, and sometimes randomly Vek'nilash, would go to my water ele sitting across the room. So pets definitely pull aggro pretty well.

Comment by anasa

Solo'd them last night (1/30/13) as BM hunter. I had a lot of trouble trying to kill them in corners or against walls, so I ended up just killing them in the middle. As long as you don't try to close to melee range with Vek'lor, he won't punt you around the room.

I pulled Vek'lor with a Serpent Sting, and then just waited for Vek'nilash to run over. I kept Widow Venom up on Vek'nilash and used a Spirit Beast for the mastery buff. Since mastery goes directly to the pet's damage, it's the only way I could keep up enough DPS on Vek'nilash while he soaked all the magic damage from Arcane Shot, etc.

I was able to loot both, but no pet this week. :(

Comment by Nekrotik

For hunters I recommend BM spec with a spirit pet or ferocity pet for the mastery buff to pet damage. Keep Widow's Venom up on both bosses and this is a very quick, easy fight. The pet dropped on the first kill.

Comment by 446355

Is this soloable as a Mage? I have a lvl 89 arcane mage and cannot even touch majic guy dmg wise.... i may not be the best mage in the game but i would think i should do SOME dmg to him?

Comment by Chromell

The proc of Elemental Force does count towards tagging Vek'lor (the caster). So, if you have a any brawler class unable to do magical damage naturally (warriors, paladins, etc - no, NONE of the paladin holy damage abilities worked for me). This enchantment really is the way to go.

Be sure to hit Vek'lor with your enchanted weapon and watch the combat log to verify when the proc occurs, after that you can safely slay Vek'nilash without having to worry about the loot.

Comment by 1094305

Soloed as a hunter after a few tries. Just target the melee guy with the sword (Vek'nilash) and keep Widow Venom up and apply a lot of DPS. Remember to kill the trash outside the room beforehand.

Comment by siideriu

One of the easiest soloable bosses as a Fury Warrior (504.)
I just bursted Vek'nilash to 200k, shot Vek'lor with G91 Landshark, killed and looted both.

Comment by 1104882

Soloed today as a Combat Rogue (ilvl 472).

Used Wound Poison ans Leeching Poison. Pulles Vek'lor pff tp the sides of the stairs with my back in th corner to prevent the knock back. It kept both of them grouped together. *Note: They dispell leeching during the fight and you cant reapply it. Kept Recoup up for self heal, Killing spree kept on target. Have to use your defensive and offensive CDs so time them right. Toook about 6 minutes to down them. Recomemdation for rogues is the if your not doing 25k+dps, then its going to be a very, very hard fight as their heal is 30k every 2 seconds.

Have fun and enjoy adding AQ40 to your farm list.

Comment by 1106042

well, i was told that it is posible to solo all the classic raids, and am finding out it is not. SO here i am i can't die becasue of my stupid armour and talent regenerating health faster then these two morons do damage.. wow

Comment by Rarestealer

I soloed this as a feral druid today. If you pop up berserk every now and then, you can out Dps the heals. I stayed alive from barkskin, feral instincts, and the talent spell, renewal. Keep in mind, stealthing past the big giant dudes will not work out great. I learned that the hard way.

Comment by Otes

I soloed this boss this evening as a 90 Prot Paladin. I set my glyphs to Glyph of Focused Shield, Glyph of Harsh Words and for good measure Glyph of Immedate truth. I used the paladin mechanic Grand Crusader. I picked up the entire hall of Vekniss Drones ran into a corner and basically used them as a battery for my Avenger's Shield took less than a minute and they were done.

Comment by 182693

Ok, I see a lot of these comments which are great and essentially right, but they aren't actually telling us the main requirement of the mechanic that makes it possible to loot both bosses in a 1 man/solo situation.

After some experimenting, here it is:

The secondary/off focus boss must have at least SOME damage on him at the time the twin you are doing your primary class damage upon dies. That's it, simply put.

Here's the "catch":

Remember that they heal each other (essentially) during the fight. While that won't be a problem DPS'ing down your boss at level 90 (you can easily overcome the rate of heals doing as little as 20-30k dps, maybe less), the off twin will be getting healed, too. Therefore, if the only thing you do is to drop a DOT on him do get in the obligatory damage at the beginning of the fight, it WILL be healed by the end of the fight (much sooner, actually) and you will NOT be able to loot that Twin. Remember, he (the off-boss whom you are NOT concentrating the majority of your effort on) cannot have full health at the end of the fight or you will not be able to access his loot table, period. Start dropping your DOT/doing some damage on the off Twin once your focus Twin gets down to less that 15 or 20% health and keep it up.

The reason I am being somewhat ambiguous and not giving specific boss names is because the boss you (your class) needs to focus on may not be the same twin as another class. One boss only takes melee damage and one only takes magic damage. Find the one you can damage (I.E.- it doesn't say IMMUNE everytime you damage him with your main abilities) and he will be your main focus. As a hunter, I just kept a serpent sting (DOT) up on the secondary boss, to make sure he had at least some damage at the end of the fight.

Do NOT worry about keeping their damage percentage equal, it will be near impossible with most classes and unnecessary for all.
Do NOT worry about keeping them apart to prevent heals. Your damage at 90+ on your primary target will easily overcome all heals. Any healing mitigation spells such as a hunter's Widow Venom will be helpful to keep up on one of the Twins, but not necessary.
DO keep a little damage/dot rolling on the off focus twin, especially near the end of the fight!

FYI- Tab targeting is a pain at times because of the adds. Putting down some AOE damage where you are fighting at will help clear the area. The best thing I found to do was to "Set Focus" to the off Twin so you can click his face and drop DOTS on him near the end of the fight and then manually switch back to the boss you are actually going to kill, outright.

Edit- Just to be clear (for anyone who doesn't understand the fight at all): Once you kill the Twin you are focusing upon (the one which your class can actually do serious damage to), the off-Twin will hit the ground dead very soon thereafter no matter how much life he has left. As long as he has some, any, a little damage on him when this happens you will get to loot both bosses, including the pet, etc. If you aren't interested in looting both bosses (for whatever reason), just zerg the boss you are able to damage and both will die.

Comment by 1121407

The Twin Emperors: Vek'lor & Vek'nilash r very easy to solo, especially if u r a DK. I have a lvl 90 Tauren Male DK, and I just solo the Twins like 10 minutes ago w/ this method:

Blood DKs basically have to only melee Vek'nilash, that is it. The only moves to use is as following as Blood DKs:

1) Auto Attack
2) Necrotic Strike - also use to absorb healing
3) Death Strike
4) Heart Strike
5) Rune Strike
6) Plague Strike

These r all u use on Vek'nilash and that is game for the Twin Emperors as a Blood DKs.

Frost DKs basically have to only melee Vek'nilash, that is it. The only moves to use is as following as Frost DKs:

1) Auto Attack
2) Necrotic Strike - also use to absorb healing
3) Death Strike
4) Frost Strike
5) Obliterate
6) Plague Strike

These r all u use on Vek'nilash and that is game for the Twin Emperors as a Frost DKs.

Now, for Unholy DKs, I do not know at this time, because I have not yet played the spec of Unholy. So, I really do not know how Unholy works a this time. SORRY UNHOLY DKs!

Basically if u r melee and a DK and follow this u will solo the Twin Emperors: Vek'lor & Vek'nilash easy, Good Luck :-)

Comment by Daedralia

congrats to all who Solo (that was awesome) the Twin Emperors: Vek'lor & Vek'nilash

My plan FAILED

Comment by Fluclo

For Hunters, make sure you target Emperor Vek'nilash, retargeting him when they swap places, and make sure you keep Widow Venom on him throughout to keep the healing from Emperor Vek'lor to a minimum. No need to touch Vek'lor, you'll still get 2x the loot (one from each)

Comment by Gneisenau

Not sure what I was doing wrong. lvl 85 Unholy DK. I've read up on the strat, to dps vek'nilash and keep your diseases on the other boss to make sure he's taking damage at all times. None of the strats/videos I've seen showed these big Anubian guards and then giant scarabs spawning and attacking along with the Emperors. Was busy focusing down the large 500k adds and got smashed overall.

Might go back in and try the "tank in the corner as a Blood DK" technique. I used to do 30k dps in CATA Heroics so no reason why I shouldn't be able to out-dps the heal. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'll try the Blood DK strat later when I am awake.

I've also been able to solo Gruul, Magtheridon, and the first four bosses in BT so I know I can burn down a boss with 3+million HP and have no problems.

Comment by Kahtek

If you're a caster, I highly recommend wedging yourself between one of the pillars on top of the staircase platforms and the wall. As an Ele Shaman, I found it nearly impossible to do enough damage to outpace Vek'lor's healing until I did this, because of all the knockbacks.

Comment by 540341

Solo'd easy as 90 monk in full malev pvp gear. I just pulled them into the middle of the room and whacked away. Got one down to under my hp and touch of deathed FTW.

Comment by 1120483

This is very strange. I am following all the strats outlined above as I am a lvl 90 DK with level 460+ gear.

And the two Emperors are constantly healing one another, and I often get IMMUNE flashing as I hit only Vek'nilash with my attacks.

This is happening whether I fight him in the middle, or elsewhere.

Any clues what's going on here?

Comment by KryptoFreak

Just did him as Enhancement Shaman (iLvL 493 dancing steelx2)

I placed myself close to Vek'lor(boss who isn't immune to spells)

Cooldowns I used before engaging Vek'lor:

Fire Elemental Totem (with % damage increase buff)
Feral Spirit
Agility Potion
Bloodlust
Engineering +Agility (on gloves enchant)
Stormlash Totem
Ascendance!

Needless to say, they died...fast

Comment by McGrignr

I think the comments of "You have to damage both" might be outdated now. I don't know if it was a stealth patch fix at some point or what, but I just went in with my 90 warrior, did all my damage to Vek'nilash (and some scorpion adds), physical DPS only, zero damage to Vek'lor, and still got to loot both.

Intrigued by this discovery, I relogged to my 90 mage, cleared back up to Twin Emps, and focused 100% on Vek'lor with magical damage and left Vek'nilash untouched. Both bosses died with loot sparkles again.

Recount screenshot showing damage to only one at a time, picking up both Vek'lor and Vek'nilash loot:
http://i.imgur.com/noZdvBx.jpg

Comment by JackLenY

Elemental Shaman: Put Earth to melee boss, kill range boss
- 5.3

Comment by 930411

Made an interesting discovery... Well more painful than interesting. Apparently you have to kill all the anubi defenders in the halls before you face the emperors otherwise as soon as you agro one of the bosses they will run in and gang-rape you. Now I have to walk all the way through again.

Comment by Burnay

SOLO FOR HUNTERS! (Marksmen Hunter)

My hunter is a little under geared but even with better gear, the whole arcane shot and chimera shot hitting only Vek'lor and aimed shot, auto-shot, barrage, and steady shot only hitting Vek'nilash, I found it difficult to burn through their heals (impossible with my gear at about 450 ilvl). So for you people with hunter alts that don't have the gear that is necessary to burn these chumps I offer my solo strat as a Marksmen Hunter.

Stand on the scarab Hexagon in the middle of the room. Use the attack command with whatever pet your going to use (Just make sure it has a non-physical damaging move that it will automatically use. I used a scorpion for the nature damage so he could hurt Vek'lor) on Vek'nilash as you run towards Vek'lor. Dps Vek'lor using serpent sting, arcane shot and chimera shot. When the twins switch places you will still have Vek'lor targeted. Use the attack command with your pet again before you switch targets to Vek'nilash. Dps Vek'nilash using aimed shot, steady shot and (insert lvl 90 talent here). When they switch again use the attack command again before switching targets.

MAKE SURE YOUR PET IS AUTO TAUNTING ITS TARGET OR THIS WILL NOT WORK!

Rinse and repeat until they die.

If it gets messed up and they start spam healing each other dismiss your pet, feign death, and try again.

Good luck on the pet drop.

Comment by 982088

As a DK, for 5.3 this is very easy;

I went as Frost, Unholy presence for faster rune regeneration, nudged close to Vek'nilash, brought out Army, engaged, and leisurely burned Vek down using Necrotic Strike and Obliterate. Conversion to keep health up. Stayed in a corner to avoid knockbacks.

Ilvl 488, nothing impressive.

PS: I also did Howling Blast on Vek'lor to ensure I could loot him, but comments for 5.3 indicates this isn't necessary.

Comment by Keiichi82

As a 525 Destro Lock i sent my void walker/void lord to tank Vek'nilash. I then blew all of my cd's and dps Vek'lor. They got close to each other near the end but i was able to out dps thier healing.

Comment by 699049

FOR ROGUES TRYING TO SOLO:

You can't do any damage to Vek'lor since even poisons require you to do physical damage.

Assassination rogues won't be able to do much damage at all because all poisons are considered nature magic. Switch to sub or combat and it's very easy.

Comment by Cierona

Adding:

/tar Emperor Vek'lor

if you're a caster, or:

/tar Emperor Vek'nilash

as a melee, to a macro with your most spammed ability, will make this fight a lot easier to solo.

Comment by 1146996

I don't know who told anyone that you can solo these guys but as a dk I can't. My dk is level 90 and I can't get them past half health. So I have no clue how you guys soloed this because I've tried three times with no luck.

Comment by Peacemoon

Hey,

I killed the Twin Emperors last night and only got loot for Vaknilash. Made an in game ticket and got this informative reply which I thought would be helpful to others. :-)

Greetings Eshwoka,

My name is Game Master Kalzunni, I've been reading your ticket.

We've got a very large ticket queue right now due to the new patch, so I'm sorry about the wait time and that we couldn't talk ingame.

This is an unfortunate side effect of soloing old content. To be eligible for loot from both, you need to make sure you have engaged and damaged both Emperors during the fight. The problem is that this fight has an aggro-wipe mechanic. When the emperors perform their teleport, it clears aggro. This is a part of the fight that a full raid group obviously can deal with. However, when soloing the fight, if the emperors teleport and you DON'T hit them both afterwards, you won't be eligible for loot because technically speaking, you're not on Vek'lor's aggro table any more. You completed the encounter whilst having no presence on Vek'lor's aggro table, so technically, you're not eligible for his loot.

This has become way more commonplace now that people are trying to solo the encounter for the pet. It was never an issue during the raid back in the day because the group would obviously immediately re-engage the bosses following the teleport.

I do apologise for any inconvenience caused, but technically speaking, we cannot restore the loot to you because there is no loot to restore. The game did not generate any because Vek'lor died with no-one on his aggro table. You will need to make certain you damage Vek'lor after the teleport to ensure you're eligible for loot from him.

Have a nice day !

Regards,
Kalzunni
Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment Europe
eu.battle.net/support

Comment by huspomike

Hi folks, I just soloed this pair (for the pet Anubisath Idol) on patch 5.4, and I thought I would share the most relevant points:

Enrage timer pops off after approx 15 minutes
After Enrage (the game calls it "Berserk"), the twins stop healing each other
When they stop healing each other, your target will stop life at 100% health; he will go down like regular.
So the goal here is to sort of outlast them, or to endure until they change tactics (meaning stop the insane heals)
All the posts you have read here about "standing in a corner" or "make a warlock teleport" were of no use to me
I just needed to follow my target, Vek'lor, around and allow his twin to whack on me. Occasionally I'd take some measure to restore my health.
Additionally, in a solo fight I was able to totally ignore the giant scarabs who were summoned. . . very visually distracting, but not of consequence at level 90.
At end of fight, both twins were in the same location and were indisinguishable from each other
I was able to loot from both twins, although I had *only* engaged Vek'lor for the entire 15-16 minutes.
Technically, the pet Anubisath Idol only comes 8% of the time. But I lucked out and got him on my first win.
Someone on this comment-page mentioned using a macro with "/tar Emperor Vek'lor" if you cast spells, and "/tar Emperor Ven'kitash" for warrior types. Amen to that. I did so, as these weasels constantly tried to make me change my target.

Comment by jadrianz

As of today after the patch, I am no longer able to solo the twins on my dk, ilvl 496.. even using AoD, crate of kidnapped puppies, Terracotta fragment, raise dead and blowing all cds at start of fight, can never get Vek'nilash.. I get him about to 1/3 life and by then my ghouls are gone and Vek'lor gets him healed up.
If I try to attack Vek'lor he now has a arcane burst that blasts me away from him so I can barely get more than 1 or 2 hits onto him for dots.
Attempted 3 times, each with fight lasting all the way into the "Enrage" timer. During enrage vek'lor still healed Vek'nilash. I spent more than 4 minutes of the enrage time waiting for the healing to stop but it never did.
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Using my Hunter is still pretty easy. Send pet after Vek'lor while dpsing Vek'nilash down.. took all of 2 minutes.

Comment by thugius

Tank soloers:

Easily soloable on a 520 Guardian Druid.

After 30 minutes, gave up on a 502 Prot Pally - could not dps through heals.

Comment by Claircy

Soloable as lvl 90 Combat Rogue, ilvl 473
Keep Recuperate up and just do your thing and you shall be fine
I did it with around 20-30k dps

Comment by Sardian

Solod these guys on my level 90 Combat rogue just now. Took less than 3 minutes to burn down Vek'nilash. Stayed in the corner and kept up recuperate and slice and dice. Both died and was able to loot both.

Comment by francescamarie

As someone who loves this whole raid, I've been tons of times, and the Twins are a favorite of mine. I hadn't been back since early Cata. After reading the comments that people were soloing, I attempted it. I admit, I was skeptical. So this is for those who know what the fight was like before!

481 Affliction lock. Used Crystal of Insanity. I either overestimated their heals or underestimated current dps. I sent my vw to deal with Emperor Vek'nilash on his platform, while I ran to Emperor Vek'lor. I pulled out my macro /tar Emperor Vek'lor /cast Agony. My plan was to try to keep Vek'nilash away. That was silly and only worked for maybe 10 seconds. Some might have more luck, pet control has never been my forte. So then I just focused on taking down Vek'lor and tried to keep my pet occupying Vek'nilash so he wouldn't get in my way. Got them down in 2 minutes and 15 seconds.

As suggested here, I just whacked Vek'nilash with my staff every teleport and I was able to loot him.

Sadly, no pet.

One more note on the trash before these two - if you've been here before, you know, but if you haven't, please note that the Anubisath Defender will cast spell reflection after you pull them. Either Fire and Arcane Reflect or Shadow and Frost Reflect. This time I tried pulling with RoF, in the hopes that if I pulled with fire, that's what they'd reflect, so I'd be free to use shadow. Seems to work as long as you don't let your pet attack with shadow first. This used to be easier when we still had fire spells available to us so I thought I'd add that.

Comment by sunnitokes

hunter 90- soloed. was able to loot both and got the pet first try ^_^

Comment by pmt008

Now easily soloable. Did it on my lvl 90 DK.
Tried it in frost spec at first but got nowhere, so died and returned, this time in blood spec. This time it was really easy.

Note to all DKs going for this, do it in blood spec. Blood spec attacks are all physical. In frost spec (and I would guess unholy, but I haven't checked to be certain) your attacks are split between physical and magical (frost) and so you run out of usable attacks whichever one you attack and while you wait for your runes or runic power to recharge they heal up and attack you. Blood spec makes this encounter a piece of the yellow wet stuff, which is always good when you are wanting, like me, to grind Nozdormu rep.

Comment by Xarlequin

Went here to get Kalimdor's Revenge from Vek'nilash for my newdinged paladin...ended up with Anubisath Idol instead. Not bad :D

Comment by Eido

Is there any significance to their room being shaped as a triangle?

Comment by Sapienta

Item level 448 Shadow priest soloed; did 6.2 million damage to take him down.

Comment by Vyncent1982

While I do not know how much damage I did to defeat the twins, I did solo them successfully and at that, they were NOT separated. Feral Druid iLevel 540...combat only lasted about 30 seconds.

Comment by glitchzy

I want to see the reactions of the very first people that ran into this room completely blind and finding not one, but 2 bosses with 2 million health each that heal each other. I bet they thought "We're screwed."

Comment by mamadrood

I just down them as a prot paladin with a really low dps (18k).

I put myself in a corner of a pillar near the room entrance (there is some kind of gap behind the pillars but you can't walk through), at this spot the boss couldn't bump me and they were stacked so the swap really didn't matter.

It took me an awful long time but it's possible with really low gear.

Comment by Sandwalker

I had no idea until tonight that the Twins had a Berserk mode. My DPS as a 90 Blood DK (493 equipped iLevel) was about 20K, totally not enough to overcome the healing that they give each other. I found myself almost unable to even put a dent in either one of them because of their immunities. Eventually I reached the Berserk stage, and I could actually start damaging them. I'm wondering if this is because they take increased damage when enraged (as the tooltip for it doesn't mention any increased vulnerability).

At any rate, it was a full 18 minutes and 30 seconds before I managed to down them. Not an encounter I particularly relish.

Comment by 494651

For all you Assassination rogues out there, they appear to be immune to poisons, including Envenom. Instead, use Rupture and Crimson Tempest. Took me about 4-5 minutes to kill them, including the first half of the fight before I figured out they're immune to poisons.

Comment by 1382799

WORTH MENTIONING IF YOUR TRYING TO SOLO AND CAN'T OUT DPS THE HEALING!

I was able to fear the one boss and use Turn Evil on my paladin in order to complete this boss for the pet drop. There didnt seem to be diminishing returns however it seemed that the duration was chance based, sometimes it lasted 3 seconds, sometimes as much as 20-30 seconds. If one of them can be feared it stands to reason that they might be susceptible to long term CC abilities like Frost Trap, Repentence, or other such forms of CC available. If you don't have a second person, or a pet to pull agro across the room, this could be pretty useful stuff. Thought you all should know. Good luck.

Comment by druunah

I went in to farm the belt expecting an epic long battle. It took maybe 45 seconds to solo both of them as a level 95 protection warrior. I expect other classes will have about the same results.

Comment by brownpaw

Level 100 / around ilvl 600 warlock and I can one or two-shot the boss. When one goes down, they both do. Easy peasy.

edit: The question was asked "and your point is" -- in MOP some classes still had a lot of problems overcoming this fight. It's now trivial is the point for any 100. No chest beating. U mad bro?

Comment by utakata

barrage the hell out of them thats what i do on my hunter lol, attack one if second one comes try to lure them close to each other, barrage and there dead

Comment by gbalkam

I just soloed these 2 on a level 76 sub rogue. BoAs and BC blues.
Used 2x Elemental Force enchants.

As suggested in a previous post, pulled on boss and headed for the entrance. I got under the doorway, so the bosses couldn't fit in to get behind me and use their knock back.

Keep slice n dice and rupture up at all times, used eviscerate every time you have 5 combo points unless snd or rupture drops off, use recuperate when you need to and Cloak of shadows and evasion to max healing from recuperate.

Spam hemo to build combo points. Remember, its very important to get your evics in every time you hit 5 combo points.
Spam fan of knives if you need to kill adds or get a few extra combo points, but I only used it when I was taking dmg from adds.

The fight isn't that difficult just lengthy if you use this method.

Comment by 1237534

I never knew you could loot both of them. Until today I only looted Vek'nilash and goodness knows how many pets I've lost :(

Comment by iIIumnati

I have noticed that so many of the high rated comments in this section are outdated and obsolete as of December 1, 2015 that they no longer apply.

Sometimes you have to search these comments in order of date to get relevant information.

I just wanted to add this info for people who are searching the comments according to date rather than the rank or rating of the comment.

If you are hunter, put your pet in passive mode or in defensive mode, not assist mode. Go to the center of the room and get just close enough to the Idol on your left (Emperor Vek'lor) to where you can send your pet to attack him. As soon as your pet runs toward the Idol on your left, you run towards the Idol on your right (Emperor Vek'nilash).

Once close enough to the Idol on your right, barrage him to death, followed by arcane shot if necessary. When he dies, his brother also dies and both Idols can be looted separately.

If you are a Warlock, you can use a similar strategy. Put your voidwalker in passive or defensive mode. Not aggressive mode.

Instead of sending your void walker to the left Idol, send him to the Idol
on your right while you run towards the Idol on your left, keeping the
twin Idols separated.

Hit him with anything quick to aggro him, then use a fire bolt or shadow bolt followed up with drain life for the double kill. Do realize that you can loot both dead Idols separately.

This method seems to work fast and simple. By keeping the twin Idols away from each other, it prevents them from healing one another or swapping positions with one another.

Comment by dkcm

New strategy as of Legion pre-patch:

LvL 100 Assassination Rogue -

Run in.
One shot boss, they both go down.
?
Loot them both.
Continue on.

Comment by Volleynova

Night Elf male skeletal and animation model... rofl.

Comment by Agaver

Awesome, First ever attempt today, and dropped the pet :) happy boy now.....

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