Raiding is hard ? I end lvl to 120 and to same week full clearing HC. Raiders cry how much time he lose ? Lol push H, D&R , Raids, find grp is rly hard ....Bad is when blizzard with this directly say M+ player in season 1 where clear 20+ key take gear under HC, blizzard say to ppl with PVP rating 3k+ you skill is to low and you take gear under HC. This is way when ppl that Ion Hazikostas leads wow to hell. Maybe Ion show your skill.
The issue about weekly chest does not cross players minds because, well, we ignored it because it offers upgrades for the first 1-2 weeks, after that it's useless. How many upgrades did you get from the weekly chest? 1-2 tops per patch.I am for one okay with Blizzard doing this - for me it's the final nail in the coffin that is the Shadowlands. I defended all the @#$% decisions, relying on M+ content and a raid here and there - but now there is no reason to play. Refunded and done with it. Bye
They should scale the m+ rewards up to keystone 25 right from the get go. And yes, the max ilvl loot shold be equal to mythic raiding loot.
SquareE - look at all the content u can do to get end gear, fun and rewardsBlizzard - oh, u doesnt like raiding? so sad, best I can do is raid
yet agian blizzard screws over one grp of player, by forcing them to play content they would rather not have to do, to achive end game mythic +.i was ok with the less loot, but dropping quality just feels bad
Soooo are they going to change Mythic Dungeon International to Heroic Raid international? No one is going to want to push m+ if its under middle tier gear. +15 should not be just above normal content and below mid tier. It should be between Heroic and Mythic. All of these people that think Heroic is top end raiding and deserves high end gear are either super casual or new to the game, you need a bridge between heroic raid and mythic gear.You need filler content that progresses your characters gear more than a 3-4 hour raid a week with the hopes that you get loot, because once your saved that's it for the week. This will push players to log on for raids than off for the week, until they get bored of doing the exact same raid over and over and stop logging on. Once you have geared your character from heroic raid do u head to m+? No u hop right back into the same raid your been farming for weeks on mythic. I truly hope that Blizzard sees this issue that will kill off the higher end player base. putting m+ behind 2 tiers of content will kill this game
I was actually pretty excited for Shadowlands, but with all of these changes to Mythic+ it really goes down the toilet (fewer items and worse item level). I don't understand why they just let players do what content they like, and get gear for the progress we have made. With this system I can do a couple of dungeons and actually get no loot what so ever?I stopped raiding around Legion, tried it a couple of times in BFA, really not my cup of tea.
Good change - raiding should always be the best method to get gear.
The issue is not only are you getting pretty much no gear from m+ (1 person per group btw), but a 15 in the first season is GOING to be harder than the first raid.Uldir and EN were both pushover raids and had m+ rewards equal to heroic IL on +10. I would argue a garbage +10 on Infested was harder than anything in H Uldir which we got AotC on the second day it was open (G'huun just took a few more pulls than we wanted to do after blowing through first 5).If we are going by live numbers (idk SL) a +15 is roughly 50% harder than a +10 (345% compared to 214%).