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Which spec does the most dps?
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I'll be nice and just flat out tell you. Yes, you should read the stickies before posting, but everyone's done it. We all know we've posted in a thread before reading the stickies, even if it was at the time you didn't know what a sticky was.
Anyhow, since 3.1.2, deep Destruction is the new thing for raiding. It kind of sucks at certain parts in Naxx, i've noticed especially the Plague Quarter. It seems everything in there is immune to Conflagrate, which is a huge part of your DPS with deep destro builds. It still procs Backdraft, which helps boost your dps, but without the initial damage from Conflag, you notice a steady drop in your dps.
If you are either hit capped or close to it, the new build is 0/13/58, if your hit raiting is low, it's 3/13/55 with the 3 talent points going into Suppression in the Affliction Tree. Stickies will tell you all about the build and glyphs.
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asakawa
nothing is immune to conflag. what you're seeing is immunity to the daze effect of aftermath. the damage is still done.
in ideal situations the order for the specs is:
7066 13.0% Warlock_T7_53_00_18_DG
7016 12.9% Warlock_T7_03_13_55
6937 12.7% Warlock_T7_00_13_58
6790 12.5% Warlock_T7_00_41_30
6741 12.4% Warlock_T7_53_00_18
6693 12.3% Warlock_T7_03_52_16
6691 12.3% Warlock_T7_00_40_31
6568 12.0% Warlock_T7_00_56_15
at T7 level. it's very close. don't worry about it. play what you like most. read the stickies to make sure you don't pick a completely foolish build.
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@ryu, i was kinda hoping it would be impenetrable to the uneducated. ^_^
my point was that they're super close and casual players should simply choose the spec they find easiest or most fun instead of looking for "best" builds.
@morph, the specs are basically
3/15/55
and
0/13/58
. there has been some discussion about them since the recent patch.
look through
this thread
and maybe post back here if you have any further, specific questions?
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nothing is immune to conflag. what you're seeing is immunity to the daze effect of aftermath. the damage is still done.
Mobs immune to fire would also be immune to conflag, though obviously there aren't many examples of that. In raids, I think the only thing immune to fire are the slimes in Plague quarter when they shift to an orange color. The fire revenants before Ignis might also be immune to fire, as an identical mob type in HoL is so.
Obviously, of course, this isn't what fearbefore was referring to, but I'm just covering bases.
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The fire revenants before Ignis might also be immune to fire, as an identical mob type in HoL is so.
Nope they're not Immune to fire damage, im 0/13/58 and i do fine.
Weird. I had done it two or three nights ago and was getting immunes on Immolate, Incinerate, Chaos Bolt, Conflag, and RoF. The first time I had done HoL as my warlock (a month or two ago, when I had first started playing him again), I was surprised to learn they were, since other fire revenants like those near the anvil in Storm Peaks were not, but I adjusted.
So if they've changed again, /shrug.
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Seriously. I think choobs just look over the word "stickies" as something in a different language. Guess what? It means something so important, it's put at the very top of the forum for you to read before anything else.
/facepalm
To be fair, the Destruction spec section of that post is a little out of date. I don't think MD/Backdraft is competitive anymore, and that rotation is definitely not what's recommended these days. Also, you'd get laughed at if you went 58 points into Destruction and skipped ISL.
Generally Deep Destruction starts with Immolate - Instant (usually CoD or CoE) - Conflag - CB - Incin x 3(?). After that you keep Chaos Bolt and Conflag on cooldown and Immolate up as much as possible, in that order of priority. If Immolate will fade before Incinerate or Chaos Bolt hits, cast a nuke anyway - don't clip Immolate or waste time not casting waiting on a cooldown/immolate to fade. Ignore Corruption unless you're moving.
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