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Overhealing, How to maximize your heals with the least amount of mana?
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karlusdavius
spec?
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OscarDivine
Over-healing is unavoidable in almost any case. To minimize overhealing you would have to decrease the amount of healing you're doing overall.
So I'll be the first of a thousand people to say it, but OVERHEALING IS IRRELEVANT unless you have mana issues.
Other things to keep into account for overhealing are LATENCY (yes this DOES make a difference), What spells you're casting (Gheal will more likely overheal), are you MT healing or Raid Healing, and raid compliment (are you running healer-heavy?). All of these things can lead to what's commonly called "Heal Poaching", which is when someone else beats you to a heal.
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karlusdavius
you will find that even disc priests now have a larger over healing number. Its just one of those things. If your in the top 3 for healing done and the bottom 3 for over healing, feel proud, your very efficient
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AldaranStormrage
Divine Aegis now takes into account overhealing as well as stacking. So there is nothing wrong with spam healing for overheals as long as you are not having mana issues. Once you get to ~25k mana you should be able to FH/Penance spam for an entire 10 minute fight with just using your Shadow Fiend and a Mana pot so don't worry about it too much.
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OscarDivine
The situation you're just BEGGING for when you decide to get OVER JUDICIOUS with your heals is where your guy needs a heal and takes unexpected damage and DIES.
Oh, but Oscar, Damage is so predictable now! Yes... and no.
How many times have you seen a player get double slapped with Arcane Barrages in Malygos and practically die, but barely live because two people healed him?
Or during XT-002 Deconstructor's Tympanic Tantrum you throw an extra CoH at the end before you cast your PoH again and save someone from a light bomb?
how about Kologarn? When his random armor crunch stacks twice in two hits, and you were lucky enough to be spamming that extra big heal when he didn't actually need it at the second you started casting?
In these situations, what would have been overhealing saved someone a repair bill. Be careful where this attempt at being so super efficient leads you to. Sometimes a little bit of unmitigated slop saves the day.
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OscarDivine
Let me Quote myself
Your job is to identify the best strategy and to execute it as best as you can. Overhealing and mana usage will then be a product of your efforts.
and add that this does not exclude risk management. Identifying the best strategy can just as well mean spamhealing a tank at full health in anticipation of a big burst. Reactive healing kills, smart usage of spells does not.
Overhealing is not a "product of your efforts" it's usually a result of more than one person doing the same job. Since strategy is a dynamic process which requires constant adaptation, overhealing is expected. "Risk management" however, is an attempt to deal an unexpected event. My point is that Overhealing can help with these unexpected events. You cannot simply REACT to some situations and save the day. The game has far too many restrictions to do so. Cast time, Global Cooldowns, lag... this is why we usually say...
If you don't have any mana problems, Over Healing isn't a horrible thing.
Overhealing isn't the boogie man, it won't give you cancer, and it didn't rape your sister. It's harmless unless you're throwing away your resources when you're already at a shortage.
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Overhealing is not a "product of your efforts" it's usually a result of more than one person doing the same job. Since strategy is a dynamic process which requires constant adaptation, overhealing is expected.
Overhealing is a biproduct of the spells you choose to use. I don't think you can get away from that. When you choose to heal there are many factors outside your control that determines the outcome, but you are not without control.
I might have given the wrong impression here and given you the idea that I focus a lot on these things during raids, but between the two of us it can very well be me that on average have the most overhealing. What I have tried to say is that smart spell usage is a healthy thing that brings good mana management and reduced overhealing. It's not something to blindly ignore.
I often see comments like "if you kill the boss without deaths it dosen't matter". This isn't all out false, but it's a gross simplification of all the choices healers do during a fight.
Yeah, sure I can agree with that. I suppose the real question now for the OP would be, just how much overhealing are you doing?
Raid healing: At or under 20 or 25%, I'd say you're about on par. If you're over 40% I'd say you definitely need some help.
MT healing: At or under 50% (maybe 60?) I'd say you're about on par. If you're over 70% something needs to change.
(All this qualified of course that you're having mana issues ;-) haha Sorry Exo, I have to put it in)
Does it matter that one of the damage dealers did only 1234 dps as long as the boss died?
This also could have the same argument as what we're having now, but it would change as progression occurs. If the boss died and you had someone doing lower DPS than they should all that it means is that the rest of your raid was strong enough to hold up through this handicap. Eventually, you will reach a breaking point where your raid cannot compensate for the loss of this one player.
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