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Post by
tomgc
I want to make both of my DK's specs tank, for the sake of progression (since all I use the character for is tanking). The first spec is a single target threat build designed to kill bosses and do imba threat. The second spec is designed for AoE trash mobs... and surviving them. I'm pure Frost tank right now.
For the first spec, I think that Blood is best (i've heard it survives heavy hitters the best and does insane single target) TPS. For the second spec, i'm not sure. Unholy has had some hefty nerfs to it and i'm not sure if keeping spec 2 as Frost is a better idea.
So considering this, what blood spec would be advisable, and what should the trash tank be?
Post by
Wildhorn
The 3 specs can do a good job at it. Even Blood if you take UB.
Post by
tomgc
I just want the best for both.
Not sure if i'd get UB in my Blood spec. Maybe for bosses like Gothik, Sarth and Emalon as an offtank. But then again Gothik is a joke.
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Post by
tomgc
^ Highest single target threat, Will of the Necropolis, Veteran of the Third War and Vampiric Blood.
I've heard lots of good things about Blood Tanks doing Ulduar in good gear, i'd absolutely go Blood if all I did was boss fights.
Post by
asakawa
threat isn't the only issue. for progression, when you're tanking bosses, the 3% avoidance and 2% mitigation from frost is really important. i find it's single target threat very good if you're good with your KM procs.
i also find frost to be the strongest on trash pack agro. DnD > (deathchill)HB > BB > BT > BB with HB glyphed makes for very sticky trash mobs.
on the 3.1 ptr i had a plan very similar to your, going blood for single targets and frost for aoe but, after a lot of testing, my threat just didn't improve enough with blood to make the lack of core tanking stats worth it.
Post by
tomgc
I still want to try Blood Tanking, if it fails at boss tanking I can always use my Frost Spec, and if a fight involves much AoE tanking I can always go Frost for it.
And I can always just respec if I find Blood to be poor.
With no experience of Blood Tanking I put this into the wowhead calculator. I'm not sure how well it would do
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jcErqI0Ic00fssZhxZMg0h
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Post by
tomgc
I forgot that Morbidity increases DC damage but i'm not sure if i'd take the talent just for that, since I won't be using DnD all too much (as Blood). I think that imp Icy Touch is a good idea, since the other tank isn't always on the mob i'm on.
Will I even be using GCDs for Death Coil as a Blood Tank? What about Glyph of Disease?
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tomgc
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jcEMqI0Icb0fssZhxZ0gh:GiZmVM
I put together what i'm considering here, I can either put those last 2 points in Scent of Blood or Virulence but i'm not sure how Blood uses RP. My understanding is that you can sustain RP well enough if all you use is RS, and you have to keep RP over 25% (or 50%?) for Death Strike to hit hardest. SoB seems a little wasted unless I have to use DC to max out my threat.
Not sure how often i'll be at 75%hp+ for Blood Gorged either... I suppose the ArP is very good but i'm not sure how the stat will contribute to TPS/DPS >.>
Edit: is RS really better around Ulduar? I know quite a few people who look at the RS hit and claim that thats the benefit you get for your RP, but the benefit of RS is what it adds to your autoattack.
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Post by
Aleanos
25 RP is enough to max out the benefit from the DS glyph.
Blood gorged wont be in effect 100% of the time yes, but the 10% ArP is still something not to be taken lightly (as it boosts more or less 60%+ of your TPS).
Edit: I know a blood Dk tank that's doing Ulduar, his RS's hit/crit in the 4-8k range (he claim to have gotten a 11k one aswell) so yeah, RS rocks.
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