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windstrum
I don't pay strict attention to the maths, but I have a feeling that plain ol' LB scales better with spell power than CL.
I've also done work on the raid boss target dummies in Org and after expelling my entire mana pool, using only LB in my rotation instead of CL+LB I finish with ~200 more DPS. Whether its a timing thing with trinkets, etc, I'm not sure (because with the CL routine I obviously run OOM much earlier). I don't use bloodlust in my testing, but everything else is used (totems, trinkets, other offensive spells in the normal rotation, etc).
Edit: Wow, grammar.
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Gnub
I don't pay strict attention to the maths, but I have a feeling that plain ol' LB scales better with spell power than CL.
It does. Refer to the Glyph of Lightning Bolt and the Shamanism talent - and the fact that it gets better contribution from spellpower, as the cast is longer.
It shouldn't take
that
advanced math to prove whether is the actual best, but I'm sticking with LB.
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windstrum
From
Elitist Jerks
:
Chain Lightning
CL can be used in single target rotations, as it has a slightly higher DPSC (or Damage Per Second Casting) figure than LB. The trade off is that the mana cost is much higher (and disproportiantly so compared to the dps gain).
Yeah I rarely dare call anything from EJ a "mistake", but I do think this statement is outdated. IIRC, they've had this posted on their forum since before 3.1 (any maybe even earlier than that). Shamanism and the Lightning Bolt glyph have changed things though. I think Blizzard are trying to take CL out of single-target rotations.
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MFInc
LB crits definetly do more dmg than CL btw if you have enough haste rating CL dps gones much lesser compared to LB because with every 20 haste rating LB become more faster about 0.1 but CL only change 0.02(not calculated only example) ,so with an enough haste rate LB definetly do much dmg btw it is a big difeerence between LB and CL which is CL have cooldown so cannot used instead of LB. In conc use LB and dont waste your mana on single target .
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MFInc
I've stopped using CL in single target rotations quite some time ago.
Not only does the crits seem to be higher than CL, but you save alot of mana during an encounter which is always handy when you or someone else has critical health (i know it's the healers job, but if throwing a LWH saves a member from death, it's worth it)
And as most have said before me, LB scales much much better than CL, so the dps on LB will rise faster when gearing properly
Only thing i'm missing is the mighty cool anymation of CL. I wish that some day we could make our LB look like CL but 1 target, maybe another color or so ^^
Its why CL called chain and LB called bolt didnt think it could fit if you use chain animation on a bolt spell btw I think LB's animation quite well enough maybe can gett some improvement but not like chains it should have a bolt animation.
Post by
faia
can't we summery up
CL cost more do more damage so its make sense it crit more (on first target) to you start get much SP where LB scale better(not sure where it start to do)
LB cost less do good damage still
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Gnub
LB crits definetly do more dmg than CL btw if you have enough haste rating CL dps gones much lesser compared to LB because with every 20 haste rating LB become more faster about 0.1 but CL only change 0.02(not calculated only example) ,so with an enough haste rate LB definetly do much dmg btw it is a big difeerence between LB and CL which is CL have cooldown so cannot used instead of LB. In conc use LB and dont waste your mana on single target .
You really should learn how to use percentages... 10% of 200 is naturally bigger than 10% of 150, but they still increase with the same amount: 10%.
Haste itself affects the spells the
EXACT
same way. The percentagewise increase in DPS is the
SAME
.
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66520
It's also a good filler spell for when your haste levels don't leave you enough time for a lightning bolt without delaying your next lava burst.
Also: take every single quoted but not cited spell power threshold with a pinch of salt - there are still people on this forum who will swear black-and-blue that the threshold is 2400 spell power for totem of wrath glyph.
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