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Should Cocaine Be Legal?
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Post by
MyTie
And that still leads to two innocent people scarred for life.
Agreed. Half the debate here has the kids in mind... the other half has the criminals.
I don't understand the logic of the other half. "Well... just because he rapes a little kid doesn't mean he should.. .you know... go without TV"
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TheMediator
Rather than stick them in exile for 30 years, or tattoo a letter on their face, why not just stick with attempting to rehabilitate them? Is it not better to save a life than destroy one further?
A 40 year old man rapes a 5 year old boy.
I say tattoo his face and send him to harsh prison for life.
You suggest enroll him in a senstivity course.
Give him a second try. If he screws up again, then he's not going to learn; he's a repeat offender. A rehabilitation is not a sensitivity course, stop attempting to mock it and propose something logical.
So... the law should be that if a man rapes two kids he gets tattooed and goes to prison for life? Is that acceptible to you?
And that still leads to two innocent people scarred for life.
Killing a child molester doesn't undo the damage. So either way, whatever you do, you're going to have at least one person who was raped.
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Patty
Rather than stick them in exile for 30 years, or tattoo a letter on their face, why not just stick with attempting to rehabilitate them? Is it not better to save a life than destroy one further?
A 40 year old man rapes a 5 year old boy.
I say tattoo his face and send him to harsh prison for life.
You suggest enroll him in a senstivity course.
Give him a second try. If he screws up again, then he's not going to learn; he's a repeat offender. A rehabilitation is not a sensitivity course, stop attempting to mock it and propose something logical.
So... the law should be that if a man rapes two kids he gets tattooed and goes to prison for life? Is that acceptible to you?
And that still leads to two innocent people scarred for life.
Killing a child molester doesn't undo the damage. So either way, whatever you do, you're going to have at least one person who was raped.
However the victim has peice of mind that they can not harm them, nor anyone else, ever again.
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MyTie
Sorry TheMediator... I am not responding to your posts anymore. If you'd like to leave a message, please do so after the tone...
But seriously... this thread has descended way way off topic and into obscurity. It is destined for lockage, and rightfully so.
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MyTie
For the record... I haven't yet heard any well thought out arguements against the legalization of cocaine.
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TheMediator
However the victim has peice of mind that they can not harm them, nor anyone else, ever again.
I suppose there is that... but along those same lines, you could say have someone who committed battery, and then try to use that rational to try to justify attaching some extreme penalty to it. Our justice system is about trying to rehabilitate those who committed a crime, not for trying to exact revenge.
Sorry TheMediator... I am not responding to your posts anymore. If you'd like to leave a message, please do so after the tone...
But seriously... this thread has descended way way off topic and into obscurity. It is destined for lockage, and rightfully so.
Gratz?
For the record... I haven't yet heard any well thought out arguements against the legalization of cocaine.
That's because your eyes are closed.
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Patty
And that still leads to two innocent people scarred for life.
Agreed. Half the debate here has the kids in mind... the other half has the criminals.
I don't understand the logic of the other half. "Well... just because he rapes a little kid doesn't mean he should.. .you know... go without TV"
You know what? I could say the exact same thing about your argument:
"What? Crime? EXECUTE THEM ALL!@#$, a mistake? KILL THEM! Minor drug use? HANG THEM! He had a .9 alcohol blood level when the limit is .8 or so? HE DESERVES TO DIE!"
Incarcerating someone for 10 years with television and minor comodities still seems like a more level headed and reasonable punishment than anything you've suggested.
Your debate seems to be more "aaw pity and support the OFFENDERS rather than the victims."...wtf is that about?
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MyTie
You know what? I could say the exact same thing about your argument:
"What? Crime? EXECUTE THEM ALL!@#$, a mistake? KILL THEM! Minor drug use? HANG THEM! He had a .9 alcohol blood level when the limit is .8 or so? HE DESERVES TO DIE!"
Interesting. The difference being I'm NOT saying to execute everyone, and you ARE saying that prisoners deserve TV.
Edit: The only laws I propose have the sentences changed are:
Child rape
Rape
Murder
Political Corruption
These are the worst offenses possible, IMO.
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MyTie
For the record... I haven't yet heard any well thought out arguements against the legalization of cocaine.
What exactly are you looking for? There have been plenty of arguments against it, just not in the way you wanted. Regardless if you legalized it, people would still be high, and still possibly commit the same crimes they might if they were high and it wasn't legal. What's your biggest reason to legalize? Regulation and taxation? It won't take away from the fact that people are still getting high with the possibility to do harm to others while high.
And I told you it is your fault for the topic swing because of your second part to your phase 2 post.
Ok. I don't think that legalizing cocaine would do anything to decrease it's consumption. I also don't think it would do anything to increase its consumption. So... how is this an arguement against legalization, which WOULD get rid of the gangs?
My phase 2 post was made to show the need to make illegal the ACTIONS of people, not the things that they buy, including cocaine. We are a society that wants to force people to be good by taking away thier ability to do wrong (gun laws, cocaine laws, etc). I propose we become a society of consequences to actions. The two are really the same topic, but we got off on a tangent. Who's fault that is remains debateable, but that too, would be off topic.
Post by
Laihendi
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
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