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HOW do people manage to have below 2k DPS?
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Bruenor80
I've wondered some myself. I know some people in RL that were having troubles with dps and it all boiled down to spec and rotation. Granted, it was the first 80 for both of them, and they weren't trying to get in raids and do heroics without my help or that of other mutual friends. Once I got them both pointed in the right direction(go to
www.elitistjerks.com
and READ!) they gained about 1000 dps each.
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Deriden
Once I got them both pointed in the right direction(go to
www.elitistjerks.com
and READ!) they gained about 1000 dps each.
You really don't even have to go there to learn your class.
Before I rolled my hunter, I had a good idea of what to expect throughout the leveling process and when I hit 80. I did this because I spent a small amount of time on EJ, read some threads in the class forums here on wowhead, and subscribed to a bunch of hunter-specific blogs that talked about certain details that I could not find elsewhere. My goal was to be as good of a hunter as I could be throughout the entire process. Lo and behold, it made him a blast to level and an even more fun to play at 80.
Time spent researching your class will invariably effect the amount of dps you do. Of course, a lot of people that play DPS are lazy and don't really care about whether or not they are playing the game correctly. Those are the people that live by the "it's a game, I'm not supposed to take it serious" motto.
Today, I played with a ret paladin who pulled 1.2k dps and barely edged out the prot pally's total damage. I've also played with a rogue who pulled 800 dps in H-Nexus.
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Poglia
Yeah, most DPS sucks nowadays. When I dinged to 80, with full green and blue quest gear, I did 1800 DPS with my Destruction Warlock and 1600 with my Enhancement Shaman. With the Shaman I even did more than 1000 at level 71 with full Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord quest gear. Also my girlfriend did 1300 with her Survival Hunter without any item equipped but the bow, and once I have seen a Moonkin with blue and green gear (just dinged to 80 too) doing 2300. All without AOE.
Then, how comes that I often see epic geared people doing less than 1000 DPS in Heroics and less than 1500 in 25-man Raids? Yesterday, for example, I have seen a full epic Survival Hunter with 3 Tier 7 pieces doing 1700 DPS on Patchwerk. On trash mobs and other bosses he did around 1300, less than the tanks. And what about the half-epic Warlock who did 650 DPS in CoS Heroic? He used only Shadow Bolt and a few DOTs every now and then, and he even wanted a timed run.
Many people are surprised and say "omg wtf this nub did 1000 dps", but for me it's no more a surprise: these things happen every day. Unless I do guild runs, there is always at least 1 bad DPS in my group.
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Rubendesmet619
I hate to be used to boost other DPS. I mean, as a furywarrior my DPS in heroics especiely on trash is second to none(3k+ mostly) but ffs how it sucks to have a 4/5 t7 geared feral druid with a PvE spec doing 1200DPS...
In my last heroic COT timed run the tank was second on DPS...We made it with 2minutes to spare, both DPS was -1500...
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jeremiahfira
I was with a rogue in vault once who was doing
120 dps
. Turns out he was leveling his throwing weapon skill... I rolled on valorous legs even though I already had them just so he didn't get them.
Wow thats really mean. I mean reaally mean. Ninja ftw?
That dumb rogue didn't deserve free loot if he was using a throwing weapon the entire time.
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Booterang
Also my girlfriend did 1300 with her Survival Hunter without any item equipped but the bow.
'My girlfriend did 900 dps naked'. <-- Still remember that post
Anyways, you are quite correct on general failure DPS.
DPS is simply getting hit capped, and expertise capped if you class requires it, then performing the proper rotation. Too many noobs complain about being in bad gear, or are using improper gear. The only 'real' gear a dps class needs is both those caps, then they can preform their rotation properly, from there its simply grabbing epics for greater numbers.
Despite the simplicity, many players have basic issues with exercising this. Mostly it is because WoW is an easy game to level in, but once a player hits the level cap the game becomes significantly more complex.
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Poglia
'My girlfriend did 900 dps naked'. <-- Still remember that post
Anyways, you are quite correct on general failure DPS.
DPS is simply getting hit capped, and expertise capped if you class requires it, then performing the proper rotation. Too many noobs complain about being in bad gear, or are using improper gear. The only 'real' gear a dps class needs is both those caps, then they can preform their rotation properly, from there its simply grabbing epics for greater numbers.
Despite the simplicity, many players have basic issues with exercising this. Mostly it is because WoW is an easy game to level in, but once a player hits the level cap the game becomes significantly more complex.Yeah, you are right. The best thing is that I did 2400 DPS in Naxx25 with 78 Hit Rating as Elemental. I was in the top 5 DPS.
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I feel casters can also see a large gain in their damage output if they use a cast bar with a latency marker, particularly if they suffer from high latency. While this would obviously be true in cases with 300ms or more, even running at 50ms to 150ms (depending on the server and time), I can easily begin a new cast .3 seconds earlier than if I had waited for the spell to finish on my screen.
Unfortunately, most people don't recognize this issue because they feel mods cheapen the experience.
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kamodius
OP: The answer to your question is simple.
Laziness.
People come into heroics and/or raids just facerolling their soloing rotation, because hey, it works for dailies, right? Not thinking that there are wholly different mechanics for these encounters ("dps race", anyone?), they just tap 1, 2, 3, 4 with little to no modicum of urgency or attention.
As a prot paladin wearing Naxx gear, I pull, on average, probably 1500 dps when i'm tanking. Maybe a hair more if I'm going full-out with Exorcism, Consecrate on every cooldown, etc. Proabably... oh, 80% of the time I'm tanking a heroic I'm #2 or #3 on the dps list. If I see myself at #1 on the dps charts on anything but a chain-pulled undead pack, I leave group, because it's just going to be painful.
So yes, the answer is simply: laziness.
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