Post by Lightrain
Incoming wall! LAWL! Sorry, this is really long... TLDNR if you aren't into reading and learning, or didn't actually pass an english comprehension class in grade school.
My last attempt. If another one of you idiots says "QQ you're an OP feral druid," I'm going to refer you back to this and tell you to L2Read.
This is the feral perspective(one that lacks a healer) of rogues.
KK....I play at 2.2k, You guys are like women seriously, in fact I apologise to any women who may be reading this.
Hehe, I agree about the QQing, and 2.2k with shaman rogue eh? Something about a healer, with a healing debuff on his dps, and not letting a healer of any other team ever cast a spell?http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/all/all/all/all/all/all/44/73////
I don't want to know who fritzl is or why he had to be gentle.....
Looks like you're rating is dropping cause all the plate teams are now catching up with you too. Better stay put or you'll lose glad.
I play non cookie cutters. You can see by our population.http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/all/all/all/all/all/all/91/112////
The sad thing, it actually works, just not against rogues. Every other team, but rogue/healer, we can, and do quite often win against.
Your moaning about Rogues being so OP and how they hit you for over 9000, Did you ever consider maybe its your play style? #$%^&ing about Rogues and how they need nerfing, check the top 10, how many Priests you see? Don't tell me that the majority of skilled players are Priests either, I've heard that one.
Nope, never once said that. L2Read.
Your a Feral Druid for christs sake, You have the ability to sit in bear form and still put out a substantial amount of damage, what about bash?(http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26669) and let's not forget your natural avoidance of near 50%, but oh yeah, I'm still in bear.
natures grasp?(http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=988, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31224, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37864)
cyclone?(refer to cloak of noob and trinket, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8643, Kick, Blind, vanish.... and we all know that a feral stuck in caster takes, wait, how much more damage?)
you have those bound right?
You are running around with 27k armor and 30k+ HP *!@#$ing like you get one shot, seriously you trollers need to get out of the 1600 bracket and play some real arena.
I keep hearing "I'm a noob, I'm a noob -troll- QQ and L2P!"
Um, we've played a few 1900-2k rated teams in our roller coaster of dual dps, and we generally beat them, or they survive with a 400-2200 hp and a life saving heal, as do all comps when they actually beat us because blizzard decided to change http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=49802
to a stun with a DR. Less one. Guess which one. Go ahead. Guess.
FYI, they nerfed feral survival, and if a rogue with double evasion is the only thing in melee range, I have much, MUCH less mitigation and if I try to powershift crip, it's a 50/50 chance I get stuck in caster on one of your stuns because blizz hasn't fixed the bug yet and never will.
Bear burst on a rogue is retarded. By retarded, I mean non existant. Bash is dodged 50% of the time because, oh yeah, that's what their dodge rating is combined with parry. The same rule goes for mangle(bear) with it's 6 second CD whether avoided or not, and maul, which is on a huge swing timer and eats a boat load of rage. IF I manage to get a bash off, then what? Go cat? That's any skilled rogue's que for a trinket/blind/vanish/reopen on kitty with no more defenses and GG/dead druid while the rogue /rofl spams. If you actually played your rogue, you would know that you can get a bubble from the priest, vanish, and open on him without even one worry about not getting the opener off.
And for the record(food for thought), warriors, have a heal debuff, 20k armor, 26-27k stam, and twice the output even in defensive stance. Lets not get into DK's. But this isn't the arguement.
Also Rologtonejahwhgf whatever your name is, You've posted smart ass remarks on over half the threads here about how your a proud Rogue since day one which is fair enough, but last time I checked your not even level capped...Yeah its pro to sit in the lower brackets dominating then complain when another class gets a sniff of the cake. Ive probably played my alt (former main) Rogue more than you, and yes I have been playing this game a damn long time.
See QQ'ing accomplishes nothing, have some fcuking chicken nuggets and l2 deal with it.
Again, I'm not QQing about their damage. STOP SAYING THAT! It's F#@$ing annoying!
I'm saying, between all the massive amount of CC rogues have, AND double evasion should you possible be able to get them out of stealth for more than a CS+KS stun rotation, you are still a dead druid unless you get a 50/50 stun off on a rogue or get a lucky dodge because he waited too long to KS you.
They NERFED feral druid survival. If you played your rogue, you would know. Sure, with a healer, and a 5 minute long fight, a feral has a chance to be more powerful than the rogue solely because the rogue is so squishy and we can get a considerable amount of CC on a rogue if played right. This doesn't mean a skilled priest can't tip that battle.
You guys all think along the lines of "Bears are arms warriors that can turn into rogues."
Wow.... No. Bear's are TANKS. They are TRUE tanks. Not the stunlocking, silencing, "zomg that's annoying" tanks. We have a bit of avoidance, and horrible damage. Don't kid yourselves or anyone. Bears on raid bosses can pull what, 2400 dps? That's with a constant 5 stack of lacerate, and plenty of rage to spam swipe between mangle cooldowns(oh, and a very large lack of resil on said boss). We don't have castable mitigation/avoidance. Our mitigation is crit based. You can't crit if you can't hit the tartet.
If we are lucky as hell
, get some leet RNG, we can get 7k out of a mangle/maul combo. Then we are waiting on CD/swing timer, and we have no heal debuff. There is no filler. lacerate takes a 5 stack to CRIT for 1500. Wow.....
A bear isn't very dangerous if you have a healer to back you up. Forcing a druid to bear means you do less damage, but so does he. Once he goes cat for some burst, you should have a 5cp KS waiting for him(if you are smart).
Why do I know all this? Hmmm.... I see it every day in arena. Every priest/rogue that wins plays the same way, and there is no counter to it with my comp. The ONLY reason there is no counter to it is probably just because I'm not a DK, ret paladin, or warrior.
Sure, QQ about ferals. W/E. I'm not saying nerf rogue output, because it is where it should be IMO.
Oh, and FYI. Ferals have a little group that pretty much know everyone around that actually plays feral (because, oh yeah, there's maybe 3-6 successful ones on each realm).
The number 1 annoyance to feral druids is quite simply, unequivically, rogues(well, frost mages are pretty bad too, but we can for the most part power shift most of their burst). Every feral I've ever known, when going up against a rogue, is cussing at the screen the whole time. It's not a guess, it's fact.
Don't believe me? Roll a druid and find out for yourself. I would RATHER hit him for half the damage than have him open 3-4 times in a row, pop double evasion, and be literally immune to any type of CC I can throw at him for a full minute of every fight. If you can't last this long against a feral as priest/rogue, you should be wondering about YOUR skills.
As is, rogues are hard to play because they burst down so quickly once CC'd. I do NOT deny that. I happily grant you that without question. I know this. That's why I proposed this idea.
Now all you rogues are QQing about this idea because you want to keep your cc and take hits like plate wearers. It's a lose/lose with you guys. One or the other. I prefer to have an enemy that can take hits, and isn't immune to physical attacks for a full minute.
Am I QQing? Sure, because I'm the only class left that rely's solely on melee dps to kill people and doesn't have an unavoidable attack. No gimmicks, no heal debuffs, just brute force melee and bleeds.
Are rogues OP? No. I'm just tired of the keyboard turn nature of priest/rogue against feral druids if the rogue has half a brain and doesn't royally screw his healer by being stupid.