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Post by
Squishalot
Also changing anti depressants should be illegal, it is ^&*!ing painful. My doctors don't even care, they're just having a battle, one is like TAKE THIS and the other is like NO THIS.
Have you tried a non-drug approach like
CBT
instead?
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240140
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Post by
Interest
Also changing anti depressants should be illegal, it is ^&*!ing painful. My doctors don't even care, they're just having a battle, one is like TAKE THIS and the other is like NO THIS.
Have you tried a non-drug approach like
CBT
instead?
I'm going to, but it's not up to me if I want to take the drugs or not.
Honestly I dunno about those docs...
Post by
Rankkor
anti-depressants are just plain bad =(
Depression has many MANY ways to be treated other than "swallow your happy pill and forget about your issues".
its like trying to forget your problems by getting drunk, a shoddy, sloppy, cumbersome solution that creates more problems than it fixes.
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240140
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Post by
Adamsm
Number 10 is really cool.
Post by
Squishalot
Also changing anti depressants should be illegal, it is ^&*!ing painful. My doctors don't even care, they're just having a battle, one is like TAKE THIS and the other is like NO THIS.
Have you tried a non-drug approach like
CBT
instead?
I'm going to, but it's not up to me if I want to take the drugs or not.
Not sure how it works in Sweden, but in Australia, there's a distinction between the psychiatrists (i.e. the docs who can prescribe drugs) and the psychologists (i.e. the ones who can't prescribe drugs). Seeing the latter might be a way out, if something similar exists over there.
Post by
Rankkor
anti-depressants are just plain bad =(
Depression has many MANY ways to be treated other than "swallow your happy pill and forget about your issues".
its like trying to forget your problems by getting drunk, a shoddy, sloppy, cumbersome solution that creates more problems than it fixes.
I don't take anti depressants to forget about my issues, they don't work like that at all for me, but it's pretty much impossible for me to even walk out the door if I don't take them to calm my anxiety.
I still don't think its the right solution, Squish raised a valid point on other non-invasive treatments for depression.
There are several alternatives equally effective than just pills, which not only end up inducing the placebo effect, but also often create dependency. Neither of those is cool.
Post by
asakawa
anti-depressants are just plain bad =(
No
This is not the case and you should not say such things. They aren't the answer to "being sad" but depression is not "being sad", depression is a medical condition which can be greatly helped by medicines when prescribed properly by an experienced medical professional.
Honestly, this is too serious an issue to spout off when you don't understand the subject and I really encourage you to learn more before making similar contributions in future.
The reason I react so strongly is that there's a massive stigma about depression and other psychological conditions and what you said is a BIG part of the problem - either contributing to or perpetuating ignorant stereotypes.
edit: "equally effective" isn't something you're qualified to judge. There are other effective treatments, many work well in tandem with pharmaceuticals. Also unless you have studies to hand suggesting that depression medicines provide insignificant improvements above placebo then, again, it's a bad subject for laymen to contribute.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##
Post by
Squishalot
I still don't think its the right solution, Squish raised a valid point on other non-invasive treatments for depression.
There are several alternatives equally effective than just pills, which not only end up inducing the placebo effect, but also often create dependency. Neither of those is cool.
Used appropriately, anti-depressants have their place in a treatment plan. Emphasis on appropriately, which is the main reason why I suggested an alternative, because her doctors don't seem to be on top of things. Not trying to say that CBT is better or worse than the drugs.
Edit: And what asakawa said, but he beat me by 3 seconds :P(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Squishalot##DELIM##
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240140
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Post by
Squishalot
Thank you, Asakakakwkakakka.
And like I said I'm starting the CBT thingy but I think it's after the summer.
Good to hear - from learning about the theory, seeing it in action and seeing results, I can see it has its merits. It's not for everybody, but hopefully it works out for you.
Post by
Rankkor
Also unless you have studies to hand suggesting that depression medicines provide insignificant improvements above placebo then, again, it's a bad subject for laymen to contribute.
All I got is first hand testimony about it, my grandma suffered from depression, and yes I know depression is a lot more dire than just "being sad" but she was able to overcome her depression without the need of anti-depressants. Just plain old therapy sessions.
I dunno, I guess I'm old fashioned and trying to cure mental conditions with drugs rubs me off the wrong way. Didn't meant to say anything offensive, or to perpetuate stereotypes or mis-information, I was just sharing an opinion, I am by no means an expert on psychotherapy or any other field of medicine for that matter.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Rank- there are multiple types of depression.
When people are going through a bad patch, they can develop depression, and therapy can help a lot with it.
When people have a chemical imbalance that causes the chemicals released when you're sad to be released in excess, ALL THE TIME, then you do need chemicals to put them back in balance.
I'm not sure which type your grandmother had, but I am guessing the first if therapy helped. You can't tell someone whose brain is producing chemicals that make them miserable, regardless of what's going on in their life, that they the medicine used to treat that is "bad." It's ignorant, it causes people who are already are having a tough time to be self-conscious about seeking treatment, and it's dangerous because it makes people discount the fact that there are very real biological factors to people who have chronic depression.
It's like telling a diabetic that insulin is "bad" and if they would just control what they eat, they'll be fine. In some cases it may be true, in some cases they need it to correct a serious imbalance. Don't make dangerous blanket statements when you're uninformed. It can lead to people being scared to be treated, and maybe ending up hurting themselves, because they're told that it's something they should be able to handle without medicine and they can't.
Post by
Rankkor
=( sorry Elura, I didn't know that
U_U
I apologize.
Post by
Interest
Yay new article. It's a big one guys.
Post by
Adamsm
Sleep is good. Night bin.
Post by
Rankkor
Sleep is good. Night bin.
sleep is for the weak.
Good night bin, going to bed now.
Post by
Interest
Sleep is good. Night bin.
Oh bai.
Post by
MyTie
This last 48 hours has been rotten, on all fronts. Here's to having a good recovery couple of days.
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