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goshadstep2lose
you can stealth during the gouge time if you have improved gouge. go spec 3 points into it and try. no you cant it takes 6 seconds to get out of combat
yet again. same response of you saying no to everything. read the above post for that garrote/rupture/cheapshot one
you said "as long as the target stands still"
it's a bleed/backstab spec. they can stand still or run around all they want, they will bleed the damage out your blee damage isnt as leet as you think it is it a rupture and garrote wont be able to drain someone down with equal gear
ever
and not one of your rotations allows for the use of a trinket, and without KS you leave yourself open to being kited by any kiting class except for a warlock, and any class that isnt kiting will just outlast you
1. I posted the same video on pwn depot and two out of 14 people thought it was bad. they acknowledged the fact that it was made in 2 days because of expiring subscription. your BS excuses are BS you have your account back now so go do it right? (btw pls give me the depot link)
2.this spec is not for scrubs. the fact that i happened to 2 shot these twinks was because it was made in 2 days and i couldnt find many twinks. only xhuni and the ally ones. scrubs get killed fast regardless of spec. you're a twink. you should be doing that. its the 39 bracket twinks arnt hard to find, and we arnt discussing twink vs scrub combat, we have established that 15/0/15 is just fine for 2 shotting lowbies but due to its lack of control you will get kited by kiters and outlasted by melee
3. "you're terrible at math not once when you tried to argue numbers" and you are terrible at english my bad incomplete sentence- "did you suceed" was the end but the point of the statement was obvious (one you didnt reply to)
4. you arent backing your arguement up. you say daggers arent viable, that is just opinion. a bleed/daggers spec is quite viable as of wotlk LOL whos not backing thier oppinion up? go look at the arguments from the first 3 pages of me backing my arguements up where ultimatly you had no response and dodged the argument completely, go to the rogue thread and link your spec and we will see what they think, but for the sake of argument I will restate what ive said on previous pages, daggers are out dpsed by hemo (something at one point you even said yourself) and they are our survived by hemo, this means its NOT VIABLE as it has no or very little point
5.still your opinion. the fact that you dont know it as a new form of it's own cc and control is amazing.
get on your twink, spec 3 points, and see. you can re-stealth.
LOL are you talking about camo again? how did your train of thought even arive at that station? GS is not a dagger ability sorry mate not an opinion thats a fact
there. answered everything. good boy now do it again
i will admit, my brother is quite the keyboard turner, yet you cant just say that he sucks solely due to that fact. yes you can, and quit blaming your brother for the keyboard turning- anyone who has watched the video can see both you and your druid brother going around ganking scrubs, and it is painfully obvious (unless your brother is playing both characters at once) that you are keyboard turning
and please dont respond by just calling everything fail without backing it up. backed it up
your turn
at least you admitted you didnt know you could cheap shot through sap. despite the fact that you rolled your eyes. now it just shows that you were wrong about that, i almost choked when i saw you were accually going to use that, thank you
please god tell me you are being sarcastic
and trust me you are wrong about the gouge.k when you start getting out of combat 2 seconds sooner than everyone else get back to me
again all or none
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goshadstep2lose
6 seconds to get out of combat. imp gouge is 5.5 seconds. run away a couple of feet and re-stealth. you just pointed it out but didnt add it together. didnt add what together?
trinkets can screw up any rotation. same for hemo. it's not gonna be one hundred percent all the time.thats why you dont have rotations in PvP retard, PvP is unscripted and unpredictable, knowing what ability to use when is separates a bad player from a good player- for instance KSing a shamman at 2%- bad player
thanks for just saying bs bs bs to one of my posts. where did i say just bs? I gave you a good point one which you didnt respond to
read this: 2 DAYS TO PUT IT TOGETHER. I JOINED AND I FOUND ONLY 5 TWINKS. GET OVER IT. see the above post- but sure ill play again
1) This is an obvious BS excuse (just like ITS MAH BRUTHA! one) and no one believes it
2) This is the 39 bracket its NEVER hard to find a twink BTW didnt you say something akin to ruin having the most active 39 bracket? OSNAP
3) If you knew the video was going to be bad as you suggest by excusing it with such zeal, why make it in the first place?
4) you have you account back now (if you even lost it in the first place) go do it right?
repeat that incomplete sentence and ill answer it. (honestly didnt know what you wanted) can you not put 2 and 2 together? "you're terrible at math not once when you tried to argue numbers"+"did you suceed" dat wun so hard nao wuz eet?
i will admit, my spec wasnt as good as hemo in 1v1. but as i said, my brother uses it to play with me. im feral druid. i (feral druid) stun pounce, bash and keep them busy while the rogue ambush/backstabs. and going around ganking people, especially when there are 2 of you, IS NOT PVP VID WORTHY
otherwise, of course. a 15/0/15 will lose to hemo any day. it loses everyday regardless
ambush is not for 1v1 on twinks. hemo is. but ambush is far more useful when there is a feral druid taking all the hits and stunning. EXACTLY you just said what ive been saying for a while, your spec isnt for the true aspect of twinking- and there is nothing special about 2 shoting scrubs with your brother and therefor what you do IS NOT PVP VID WORTHY
as for the keyboard post and the scrubs. it was put together in two days. i fought everyone i could. i (feral druid) dont keyboard turn. i jump, then 180 degree turn, then shred. my bro cant do that =P so much bull@#$%, quit blaming your brother (just like at pwndepot you claim the rogue is you brothers but here its the druid how !@#$ing convenient) but again NOT ONCE in youre video do you mouse turn... its all keyboardturning fail, and before you say "its mah brutha!" again realise that we have seen both you and the druid in the video
both
keyboardturning
about that sarcastic thing. yes i was being sarcastic. cause u already said you didnt know. (with rolling eyes =P) K i wasnt sure if you were accually pursuing that, which honestly would have made this way to easy
o btw, the gouge thing. 6 seconds to get out of combat. imp gouge is 5.5 sec you said that already- but basically i was right? you cant gouge restealth like you can blind restealth without running a safe distance which gives your target the upper hand, unless you burn sprint
you run away for like 5 feet and restealth, hit sprint, and get them. it's not two seconds. assuming they dont have any AoE you also forget in you rotation- gouge and sap are on DRs so if you have sapped to get the opener your gouge will only last 3 seconds
o and btw, here is the depot link. 2 people didnt like it, the rest did.
http://pwndepot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15867
LOL dude, are you like in denial? go through and read each post again, this time w/o your beer goggles- one person (Warbay) gave you a good review, everyone else was unimpressed- basically your pwndepot link is the same crap here You thanking the 1 or 2 people who give you a good review and then calling everyone else who gives you a bad review trolls! we are being honest with you mate, the videos bad your spec was bad, get over it, change your attitude, go improve yourself, then come back
it goes on for 2 pages btw. i saw them both
honest mate, i'm not trying to troll, it's just in my battlegroup, these methods work. these specs do succeed. and yes, i know 15/0/15 is bad 1v1. but that isnt the case for us. we stay together. I know you arnt a troll i was being sarcastic when i called you one, you are just a butthurt kid who only wanted to hear comments on his video that didnt hurt his self esteem, its understandable youve been told by your mother all your life that you are amazing and special, it sucks when you come out into the real world and find thats not the case. And the only reason that "these methods work, these specs.. succeed" is because you are 2 twinks ganging up on scrubs- you could rock 0/0/0 if that was the case and it would still "suceed"
and the imp gouge. the reason i spec it is because 5.5 seconds is like a cc of it's own. im not gonna gouge when i have bleeds on.
=P gouge is worthless CC, it costs too much enery dosent last long enough, adds a combo point, and can be dodged and parried- its only purpose now is to get out of sticky situations and since mutilates positioning change serves no purpose in pvp but as a last ditch kick (which the extra seond doesnt effect)
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goshadstep2lose
druid isnt a keyboard turner. show me where i keyboard turn on druid. all you do is jump in the air, 180 turn, and then shred. damn you for wasting my time like this 0:14, 0:22, 1:00, 1:06, 1:12, 1:14 it was at this point i quit as accelatated squences are extreamly hard to follow and i felt that that was sufficient
as for the twinks being there. this vid was made in two days (8th time) and i fought as many twinks i could. there was like 5 of them. during summer, there is about 3 twinks in each warsong, and about 4 in each ab. you arnt going to convince anyone that its the reason there are so few twinks in your video (8th time), they arnt hard to find in the 39 bracket and if you have (6th time)
your account back lets see some videos of you vs twinks if you can do it
(4th time)
i included all i could. and when i said ruin was active, i dont speak for pug's. maybe you don't know what a pre made is but that is how i base how active ruin is. atm, there was no 10v10 going on. bull!@#$ everyone does some soloing from time to time, esspecially twinks, stop defending the video with bad excuses they dont work
imp gouge lasts 5.5 seconds. to re stealth you need 6 seconds. are you telling me that you honestly can't re stealth given that amount of time? just give a yes or no question on this one. you said you can restealth before gouge wheres off i corrected you, its over
obviously you cant add. the pwn depot link - warbey, calbercy, darzk liked it. jadyn said he got smart at the end of xhuni duel.ok lets look at this
i loved the
music
and the
game play is ok
but
for the love of god PLEASE unbind his back key PLZZZZZZZZ
he said he liked the music, and the gameplay was O.K. he also bashed the keyboard turning
...Movie itself was
meh
, but you know that... meh=good? lolololol
and yea jadyyn said he got good at the end of the duel a clear insinuation about the rest of the video
if you think those people gave you good it is understandable why you are so butthurt by mine
ish and deval didnt like it. radioheading said it was mediocre. how the heck is that just one person liking it? obviously you didnt read it. see the above quotes only 1 person said it was a good video
15/0/15 loses to hemo. but it is viable (was after new patch) when you have someone else with you. im not saying it has control, because it doesnt, its just good at burst. again- (god i need to repeat alot of things for you) just because you are sucessful at double teaming people with your druid brother dosent at all mean you spec is viable, you out gear them and
there are two of you
is most likely why you have this idea in your head that your spec works
ok, let me spell this out. imp gouge will let you restealth. all you need is a extra 0.5 seconds. just freaking walk away for 5 feet, restealth and cheap shot. of course that wont work against a mage who will just arcane explosion, but it works against other rogues and other classes.
shaman- fire nova and walk the other way
warrior- demo shout
hunter- flare
lock- RoF
druid- bear form if they arnt already
rogue- lol restealth
pally- consecrate
priest- holy nova
basically gouging for the restealth is handing control over to the other player GG
when i gave you my rotation, that doesnt mean that is what i will do against everyone no matter what. it's just a basic of what can be done. that doesnt mean i will stand there and do the same pvp rotation regardless. yea i know you adjust your rotation when it calls for it, like when you didnt KS that shamman at 2%... OWAIT
i cant believe you just stood there and said only one person on depot liked it. i just listed who liked it and who didnt. seriously, go back and read it. way to jumble you points around, but anyway go review the quotes and pay close attention to the bolds, underlines, and italics maybe then you will comprehend them
as for scrub killing. are you telling me that in every twink video you have ever seen no body kills random people? even the good ones, like deeps six video, kill scrubs. did i say that? no but as i and a few other people here have said there is nothing special about killing scrubs and therefore nothing special about your video, hence it is bad
a good twink video imo has lost of arenaslots of 1v1s and sometimes some flag running, when there is twink vs scrub combat its 1 twink vs x scrubs not the other way around (like 2 twinks and 1 scrub LOL)
i just put it together in two days. there was only 5 twinks, and i put them in. so quit it with the scrub sh1t. you quit with the BS excuses and make a real video then
if your video isnt bad why do you defend it so zealosly, and use so so so many excuses? The video should speak for itself. And the defense mechanism you employ is just adorable- anouncing to everyone that it is your brother who is playing to "test the waters" so to speak and see how people like it, and you protect yourself from any emotional and social damage when they dont. You didnt expect there would be people who could see through your bull!@#$, did you?
Now grow up, take the critism like a man, and go improve yourself!
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
1- i (druid) doesnt keyboard turn. i looked at those points in the vid, and honestly, nothing. good luck convincing anyone else
2- there wasnt many twinks on. why would i lie?too save face,
why wouldnt you lie?
i filmed it all in two days. i get to play 2 hours a day. i went in a bg and filmed. why else do you think i filmed multiple points from one bg. you have multiple points from 2 BGs- WSG and AB, last time i checked those were both the only BGs in the 39 bracket where you could actively avoid twinks, and for the last time quit dodging
IF YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN DO IT AGAIN
3- i know. people do solo. and the 5 twinks that did in the span of those two hours were included in the video. xhuni and the lock that you ganking while he was mounting past hte hut... thats 2
4- the depot link. he said unbind his back key. you took that out of context. he meant so he cant just keep going back and forth. that is why i said this in my first post :
"he has an annoying habit of moving back and forth when stabbing (idk why)"
that is what he meant. nice try tho since keyboard turners use their back key... WASD tard
either way neutral comment is neutral
and yes you do know why as its you playing
5- "out gear them?" of course i outgear the scrubs, im a twink. and if you're talking about the other twinks, that is the whole point. i go ambush/backstab to go 2v1 them. it's not built for 1v1. (11th time) it's for burst damage. and for the 11th time there is nothing special about twink vs scrub and 2 vs 1, it dosent belong in a video as it req no skill (keyboard turners can even pull it off EL OH EL)
6- shaman- fire nova and walk the other way- my point exactly, walking out of range alows them to now heal, LIKE I SAID YOU ARE GIVING THEM CONTOL OF THE FIGHT
warrior- demo shout - stay back, they waste rage- then bandage
hunter- flare -imp gouge doesnt work on hunters- LOL WHAT
lock- RoF
druid- bear form if they arnt already - same as warriors- being in bear form breaks your whole strat, they will outlast you if they are twinked
rogue- lol restealth - lol they have bleeds on them from my build- hahahahahahaha so you
do
gouge people you bleed? hahahaha fail
pally- consecrate - cheap shot still gets off if you are close enough and you spam it- no you idiot if you are close enough consecrate will knock you out before you can even restealth, if you get out of range they heal
priest- holy nova - they go oom (no more rank 1, have to spam max rank and that is waste of mana)- not when you are gouging for the restealth and therefore in range of it
basically you portray how a complete jackass would stand right in front and wait for them to hit you. imp gouge also opens a window of opportunities. more control and also band aid. gouge the enemy(if trinket on cd) and you get a free netherweave bandaid. that is a ton of health. As ive stated above, if you gouge for the restealth you will give them at least a half second window to use whatever abilty they please to knock you out of stealth, if you get out of range then you are alowing them to heal, bandaid or go the other way and eat, either way you return the control of the fight to them, gouge is no good for getting the restealth mid fight, blind is- you can restealth and even idle while never losing control
7- yea, too bad i lost to that shaman OWAIT- the shamman was bad, but i wont go into that, the point is you used KS at 2% clearly demonstrating that you cant adjust your rotation to fir the situation, and id like to point out
too bad
i
lost to that shammanso it
IS
you, and before you say that it was you that time and your brothers the other times, either way, in that duel it is EXTREAMLY clear that you are in fact a keyboard turner
and dont say typo obvious Freudian slip is obvious
8- way to not even read or completely be oblivious to my first post, pay close attention to the first post and what he meant by unbind back key and maybe then you will comprehend them yea sorry if I couldnt comprehend how things like "meh" and "ok" really mean "great video man!" and how "i loved the music" actually means "you are a great player!"
9- it was put together in two days and i only play two hours a day and there was only 5 twinks and i included all of them; i dont think i said that before OWAIT keep yelling that excuse maybe someday we will believe it
all you do is spam bs bs bs to every single other spec than yours. show me your twink. link its armory.
http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=eitard&searchType=all
ok, common ground time. just say agree or disagree, dont make some huge paragraph. just one word. nice try but not everything is that black and white
ambush = burst yes
hemo = not as much burst as ambush yet waaay more control yes
cheap shot to not break sap works cheap shot doesnt break sap but macros to abuse this, and other methods are dubious and not to be relied upon
when playing with another druid or someone who will do the stunning for you, ambush is better than hemo no because the second you get caught on your own you are screwed
there are other specs than hemo of course, are they viable? no
imp gouge allows re stealth at the cost of control of the fight
imp gouge is like a cc of its own no, it adds a combo point and costs 45 energy for only 4-5.5 seconds, not a viable form of CC
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