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Post by
victor2008
7 weapon damage sucks balls
No U.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8725
Opportunity = 1 + (0.04 * Opportunity Rank)
Master of Subtlety = 1+(0.03* Master of Subtlety Rank + 0.01)
Modifier = (Attack Power / 14) * 1.7
Damage = * Opportunity * Master of Subtlety
Critical Damage = Damage * 2
20 Agi = 20 AP + Crit+ Armor + Dodge
Modifier = (20AP/14)*1.7 = 2.42
+7 weap damage is still superior.
7 weap damage gives me 7 damage on a normal hit and 14 damage on a crit. 20 agi gives me armor, crit, 20 ap, and dodge.
you merely stated the facts about 20 agi. you didnt say anything about 7 weapon damage. that 20 ap is also applied to both of my weapons.
that means i get 2.42 damage on my mainhand and offhand. when my offhand crits or my mainhand crits, it is applied to both hands.
the best twinks on the servers dont run around with 7 weap damage because it doesnt apply to both weapons, it doesnt give dodge, high crit chance, higher crit damage, and armor.
20 agi is still superiour
I cant believe that... You are AMBUSH/BACKSTAB Rogue and you are looking to have more WHITE DAMAGE?
epic fail.
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Post by
victor2008
7 weapon damage sucks balls
No U.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8725
Opportunity = 1 + (0.04 * Opportunity Rank)
Master of Subtlety = 1+(0.03* Master of Subtlety Rank + 0.01)
Modifier = (Attack Power / 14) * 1.7
Damage = * Opportunity * Master of Subtlety
Critical Damage = Damage * 2
20 Agi = 20 AP + Crit+ Armor + Dodge
Modifier = (20AP/14)*1.7 = 2.42
+7 weap damage is still superior.
7 weap damage gives me 7 damage on a normal hit and 14 damage on a crit. 20 agi gives me armor, crit, 20 ap, and dodge.
you merely stated the facts about 20 agi. you didnt say anything about 7 weapon damage. that 20 ap is also applied to both of my weapons.
that means i get 2.42 damage on my mainhand and offhand. when my offhand crits or my mainhand crits, it is applied to both hands.
the best twinks on the servers dont run around with 7 weap damage because it doesnt apply to both weapons, it doesnt give dodge, high crit chance, higher crit damage, and armor.
20 agi is still superiour
I cant believe that... You are AMBUSH/BACKSTAB Rogue and you are looking to have more WHITE DAMAGE?
epic fail.
20 agility adds to both white damage and the yellow damage. honestly i still cant believe you dont know that.
As almost 90% of your dmg output is Ambush/Backstab, You do not need white damage at all.
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Post by
victor2008
lol i just armoried ur twink. i can two shot you. ambush, then blind, if u trinket i will gouge, then vanish and ambush = a dead noob.
you gave up about 700 hp for 40 extra ap from my rogue.
In fact ,I do have a stam set that for flag carring, also I have a rogue set with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=869
+goose
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10501
and A 39 Monkey cap with stealth.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
by saying that i meant the best twinks that use the same spec as i do. your claim means nothing when you dont understand what i'm saying.
the best twinks on the servers dont run around with 7 weap damage because it doesnt apply to both weapons
in no way did you suggest that you meant the best ambush/backstab and either way the best twinks ... can afford double mongoose
still stands so yea my comment does mean something
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
the 20 agi contributes to my dodge, crit, ap on AMBUSH/ BACKSTAB also. not just white damage
get your facts straight
he means that since 90% of your damage comes from a couple of abilitys you need to do your best to gear for those 2 abilitys
7 dmg provides more overall damage for that spec than 20 agi
either way neither of them can outpreform mongoose
and stop with the quote pyrimids learn2format
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
are u serious? i laughed out loud. you want to be ambush spec and you dont even get the 45 crit chance for ambush?
and cold blood is a terrible replacement for that. a twinks ability to kill with ambush should not rest on a cool down when i want to one shot people.
if i were to go with ur spec my kill rate would be drastically lowered
who said this was an lolbush spec? its a dagger spec and will beat out ambush any day of the week
you should only be using ambush when coldblood or remorseless attacks is up, if not you should be using CS and BS
and the only reason your kill rate would lower is if all you do is hide in the shadows waiting for the level 30 mage to run by
but im not suprised seeing the lack of twink vs twink combat in the linked video im guessing thats exactly what you do
Post by
goshadstep2lose
so you are saying that the best twinks are only the rich ones? well indirectly yes, the best twinks have 70s and if you cant get the gold for 1 or 2 mongooses then you are bad anyway
ambush doesnt work with mongoose, everyone knows that. its a proc. if i am one shotting i dont need a proc. obviously you know nothing of a ambush spec twink.
this comment is so full of fail see my last response about your play style
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
you are just another idiot that thinks that dual mongoose will automatically make you an amazing rogue. did i say that? no i didnt
brumble is the best 39 twink on ruinwe will see
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972110142&postId=109710239310&sid=1#0
and quite possibly the best twink in the whole game. HAHAHAHAHA what do you base this on? is he even on the PTR? gtfo with your generalizations
he has only 2 characters. a 39 twink rogue (brumble), and a 39 twink druid (sphyrune). he doesnt have a 70. HIGHLY unlikely if he truely dosent have a this would imply that he lacks the basic experience with the game to get anywhere (not that im saying having a 70 makes you good, god knows thats not true, what i am saying is that you never find a
good
* player without one
you comment just contradicted itself. you said only rogues with mongoose are the good ones. but an ambush twink doesnt need procs cause he kills in one shot. an ambush twink cant one shot other twinks, so basically what you are saying is that you limit yourself to 1 shotting lvl 30 clothies, which is a HUGE statement about you skill and knowledge of twinking
also, having an ambush rest on a 3 minute cooldown is probably the worst thing you can do. no twink is going to let their kill rate rest on a 3 minute cooldown. see above commment, if you want to limit yourself to one shotting scrubs fine by me but be aware that this is the kind of twinking that makes many people hate twinks, there is no doubt in my mind that if you were to fight a twink who know what they were doing you would be completely lost
who is going to go backstab spec when there is a ambush/backstab spec. an ambush/backstab spec rogue will get the first hit on a backstab rogue. then their backstabs will do the same amount of damage to eachother. the backstab rogue will have lost about 800 hp from that ambush. only if the other rogue is a keyboard turning tard, in which case they would spec like you imo
since ambush requiers positioning and CS dosnt what makes you think you'd get the drop, btw there are always extenuating circumstances- again GTFO w/ your generalizations
go roll a rogue, make it backstab or ambush and make it cold blood specced. then show me a video and you will see how bad it sucks when people comment on the fact that a twinks kill rate shouldnt rest on a three minute cool down.
i have 2 rogues a 70 and a 39 (who is accually running CB ambush atm) ive run both 15/0/15 and CB and i can tell you first hand that yes 15/0/15 is great for 1-2 shotting scrubs but FAILS MISERABLY at twink vs twink combat, and since you dont want to participate in twink vs twink combat you two fail miserably and dont belong in a pvp video
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victor2008
I spec Ambush Backstab is for killing fc in wsg. 6 flag return yesterday in a 10v10 twink premade.
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