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Bear form is a little too powerful in other specs.
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Post by
Tush
Howdy you tree huggers!
I have been PvPing for long time and its always too hard nearly impossible to down Feral Druid and Resto Druid. The reason is? Going bear form. Its so nice when I'm nearly downing Resto Druid it will change to bear form and use all defensive cd which gives it about 80% his hp back and it will take again so much time. Same thing with Feral druids. Only thing that can make me win is that Druid panics and uses all cds at the wrong time. It would be nice that a little nerf not a huge nerf would be nice for bear form in other specs then in Guardian. So I'm asking from you tree huggers and rest of the guys... Would a little nerf hurt that much?
Post by
charchadonto
not sure if you are serious.
only way an druid can pull of what you say is might of ursoc+natures swiftness and healing touch or renewal and then use frenzied regen to get that 80% hp. at which point they have burnt at least 2-3 cooldowns.
after that bearform is useless to sit in because it gives armor comparable to mail, while damage is crap and you cant heal.
Post by
Tush
I have to use all my cds to get them to that low hp. And then they stun me and heal themselves up and I have to wait about 4 min to get them back to that Hp. I have tryed everything and I just cant down resto Druid alone. Its nearly impossible. You 2-3 guys to down Druid. As I said I have tryed everything (I know how to take max out from my spec). My friend who plays as DK has the same problem as I and my other friend who plays as Shaman has the same problem so I am not the onlyone who had this problem. It would be a little more fair if they had to cast their form like mages need to cast their armors atm. I'm just so frustrated atm I dont know what to do...
Post by
charchadonto
I have to use all my cds to get them to that low hp. And then they stun me and heal themselves up and I have to wait about 4 min to get them back to that Hp. I have tryed everything and I just cant down resto Druid alone
there is your problem.
your not suppossed to kill an healer alone. if you manage to do so then either the healer isnt playing well enough or you managed to perform an perfect stun lock+burst.
Post by
Thror
Have you only been PvPing for three months, or something? Did you notice that the Bear form has been nerfed significantly in MoP, for the other specs? Noticeably for Resto druids, and
extremely
for Feral druids.
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Post by
Mike
You guys are forgeeting Heart of Wild talent. It might be what he is experiencing but just sounds like a very good druid. I know for sure ferals are alot more squishier, boomkins too, but a resto druid with HotW might be able to pull off a bearform standstill....
Resto druids wouldnt have HotW anyway, NV is a lot more pleasing. and even if they did have HotW, it really doesnt do much good, and quite useless. 20% extra healing from NV is better.
Sounds like to me that the Resto druid just used Might of Ursoc (possibly glyphed) for an instant 50% heal.
As mentioned above by a few posters.
I Resto PvP all the time and always have MoU ready to be used. saves me countless times.
Post by
Karlzone
HotW is quite useless for going bear form tbh... It just doesn't cut it
Post by
LookOut
Sounds like to me that the Resto druid just used Might of Ursoc (possibly glyphed) for an instant 50% heal.
Since when is the effect of Might of Ursoc permanent? I've always experienced that the hp you gain goes away after the cd fades.
Post by
Mike
Sounds like to me that the Resto druid just used Might of Ursoc (possibly glyphed) for an instant 50% heal.
Since when is the effect of Might of Ursoc permanent? I've always experienced that the hp you gain goes away after the cd fades.
its not permanent. When you use the ability your HP increases by 50% and heals you for 50% at the same time.
Switching out of bear form straight away will then reduce your health by 50% but keeping your current HP as it is.
- normal HP at 100%
- hp at 50%
- Might of Ursoc with glyph activated
(but you only see on your unit frame)
- might of ursoc deactivated.
i dunno, its hard to explain, and harder to explain when im not even on my computer at home to look and make sure its right.
Post by
Trishi
I have to use all my cds to get them to that low hp. And then they stun me and heal themselves up and I have to wait about 4 min to get them back to that Hp. I have tryed everything and I just cant down resto Druid alone
there is your problem.
your not suppossed to kill an healer alone. if you manage to do so then either the healer isnt playing well enough or you managed to perform an perfect stun lock+burst.
This highly depends on what you're trying to kill the healer as. Hunters and Rogues seem pretty decent at killing Resto-Druids. Only have personal experience with a Hunter though, and that's on a pretty much fresh 90... but even my Frost DK buddy complains about them being damn near impossible to kill... and then I kill that same Resto in about 20 seconds, by myself.
But Druids ARE a better "tank" than the rest of them, by default. A Holy Paladin is pretty easy to lock down with interrupts, a Shaman got a bit of self-sustain, and Disc can be a bit annoying too. Holy seems to suffer in the same way that Holy Paladins are, in that they are pretty easy to lock down with an interrupt or two.
But the Bear form shouldn't be nerfed because of that. You can hardly nerf it more than it already is - True, the "mail" equivalent DOES add quite a few percentages of reduced PHYSICAL damage, but there's the most important point: It's all physical. How can that ever be "too strong"?
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