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OverZealous
I'm not sure if you realize that most of the things you're saying, Sold, are subjective and opinion-based, not objective and factual. This goes for many of your statements on morals and moral relativism across a bunch of posts in this thread.
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Adamsm
Except....a 1 year age difference isn't pedophilia, maybe by the "law" it counts, but it isn't pedophilia, and I've never seen or heard of anyone who believes it is. It's "legally" pedophilia, but it isn't actual pedophilia. So that doesn't count.Since sexting can get kids arrested as Sex Offenders, that logic is wrong.
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ElhonnaDS
Except....a 1 year age difference isn't pedophilia, maybe by the "law" it counts, but it isn't pedophilia, and I've never seen or heard of anyone who believes it is. It's "legally" pedophilia, but it isn't actual pedophilia. So that doesn't count.
Isn't it amazing how a majority vote will pass laws that not a single person believes in? It's funny how people will say "No, I don't believe that," and then vote yes to a law that says it's so.
Unless, of course, you're wrong, and there are people who do consider that pedophilia. which would make a lot more sense than people agreeing to pass laws that no one thinks are correct. Can you please explain to me why so many people would pass laws saying that it is pedophilia when not a single one believes that it is?
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asakawa
The point that's being put to you is that it's more complex than that (almost everything, almost always is). Is it morally wrong for an 18 year old and a 17 year old to have sex? I was having sex when I was 17, was that objectively wrong? The woman I was with was older than me (by a few months but still there was a point where she was 18 while I was still 17) was she bad/evil and was I taken advantage of?
Except....a 1 year age difference isn't pedophilia, maybe by the "law" it counts, but it isn't pedophilia, and I've never seen or heard of anyone who believes it is. It's "legally" pedophilia, but it isn't actual pedophilia. So that doesn't count.
2 years?
3years?
5 years?
10 years?
When does it become Paedophilia?
If the answer is 10 years then is it immoral for a 20 year old and a 30 year old to have a relationship?
19-29?
18-28?
17-27?
16-26?
15-25?
If your opinion is that 16-26 is when it becomes immoral then does something magic happen on the 16 year old's 17th birthday?
You'll notice that above I said "your opinion"...
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MyTie
Ya, you say that as long as I wouldn't be doing those horrible things to
you
. But, okay, I'll look the other way if I'm walking down a dark neighborhood and see you being victimized, because the person attacking you might think it's okay to in his moral viewpoint. So why should I help you?
Because it is the moral thing to do. We are saying morals are not objective. This isn't to say that morals don't exist, but that we simply lack the ability to measure them. After this many pages of explaining, I have to wonder, are you intentionally missing the point?
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Adamsm
No, you are implying that; Fenomas didn't say that at all.
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588688
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Skithus
what if your moral viewpoint is that its ok to force your moral viewpoint on people
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588688
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Skithus
Anarchy is clearly our only recourse at this point.
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588688
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Post by
MyTie
No, I'm poking a massive hole in your argument.
If my argument were a physical object, you are standing next to it doing the macarana.
Post by
Lombax
Anarchy is clearly our only recourse at this point.
But, what if my moral viewpoint is that anarchy is wrong, but yours is that it's okay. What do we do then?
You either kill him or he kills you, simple.
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164232
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ElhonnaDS
No, I'm poking a massive hole in your argument.
If my argument were a physical object, you are standing next to it doing the macarana.
LOL- this is AMAZING.
@ Sold- if there is no grey area, then there must by definition be a black and white definition. What is the exact definition of pedophilia, in terms of how old the minor has to be, how old the adult has to be, etc. If you say that pedophilia is wrong, but you can't actually figure out what the definition of pedophilia is, there's no way to evaluate whether or not it's got no grey area. If i can't figure out where the borders are around my lawn, I can't even tell you whether or not you're in that yard, so discussing whether or not you should be standing on my property is a moot point.
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