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Post by
xlanadenx
Try Vanguard. Sooo OP.
Warp in.
Do op damage to the Banshee or Atlus.
Lose shields.
Warp again.
Instant shield.
Rinse and repeat.
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Post by
Rankkor
Got ME3 today.
Now, normally I'm a very cool-headed collected individual, but allow me to break my calm stoic stance for a few seconds as I squee like a 15 year old schoolgirl on her way to prom.
/SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Now that we got that out of the way, here's some quick first impressions.
A: game looks like crap on my PC :S my video-card is very outdated, gonna have to deal with it. Most cutscenes with any sort of shadow make for some really spooky images. Will upload some screenshots later. Could be worst I guess. Would had been worst if I wasn't able to play the game at all, which is the case for A LOT of games I wanna play yet can't due to not meeting the needed requisites (Including but not limited to: Witcher 2, LA Noire, Arkham City)
B: since my game is....... hummm......... pirated (long story :S can't get it legally here without paying a small fortune, so this will have to make do) I can't access the multiplayer. Sucks, but meh, my main drive to the game is the campaign. Multiplayer (awesome as it is) is just a novelty at most. This however WILL affect my campaign somewhat, since i've heard that in order to secure the best endings you need to have a maximum of 5000 military strenght, and that is impossible to obtain without bossting your effectiveness rating on multiplayer.
I'll hope those who reported that are wrong, otherwise, I may have to resort to downloading a trainer or fan-made mod to get the necesary military strength via alternative ways.
C: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG the few minutes I've spent on the campaign are awesome, shepard IS still a badass =D
D: :S man, everyone looks different. I was able to recreate the face of my shepard without much problems but ts not 100% identical, there are some differences. And while that bugged me at first, now I feel right at home, seeing as everyone else looks so darn different. Bayley, Udina, Kalisah, Anderson, Ashley, Conrad, pretty much everyone looks WAY different than in previous games. At least on ME2 they looked slightly different, but today its like a completely new plastic surgery.
E: Dammit >.> there was some sort of bug with my ME2 savefile, for some reason even though I completed Overlord+Arival+Shadow Broker+all the other minor addons (Zaheed, Kasumi, hammerhead, normandy crash-site, ect) the game isn't recognizing them.
So I'm gonna have to re-play ME2 completely from scratch.
=/ bummer. I wanted to get into ME3 NAW. Gonna have to suck it up, play ME2, re-do the whole she-bang and then, OHH BOY, TIME TO ENJOY ME3.
And now, excuse me while I vanish from the face of civilization for the next 72 hours.
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Post by
Rankkor
Just waiting to see if he holds his stance on gamer entitlement after finishing it.
I will.
I've already seen the endings (
Short TL;DR explanation for the reapers
) and all the fuss made over it.
My stance is still maintained.
The game is awesome, the endings suck, doesn't mean the rest of the game sucks. The user-scores of 3.0 are simply not justified at all. A game is the sum of its parts, and most ME3 parts happen to RULE.
As for the sucky ending, bioware already admitted they're doing something about it. Whether its gonna be a DLC or expansion remains to be seen. Whether its gonna be free (unlikely but one can hope) or not also remains to be seen.
Did this hurt my respect for bioware? Yep, a little bit, specially since the ending goes against everything they've promised, and advertised.
A: its static, you get the same endings regardless of the choices made in past games, and current game. You may as well play as shepard-jesus, or as shepard-hitler, doesn't matter, same endings still apply.
B: Endings are identical, big giant red/blue/green saturation is all that separates the cutscenes. Something similar happened in ME2, but I let it slide because that was not the end of the saga. Since this is the last game, I was expecting them to go nuts, and have wildly different endings.
C: No closure, the ending simply leaves more questions than answers, and its not an effective way to close what has got to be the best saga in gaming history. ME deserves better.
D: Counterdicts several established lore, introduces several plot holes, and as seen by the image I linked, the explanation on the origins of the reapers is plains simple bonkers.
Yet despite all my gripe against the ending, I'm not making a fuss over it, because the rest of the game is simply fantastic.
I played Deus Ex 1 2 and 3 and all of them had sucky endings, all also are among the best games ever. Metal Gear Solid 2 had a horrible ending that was more of a mind-screw than anything, still was a great game.
Again, games are the sums of their parts. When the good overweights the bad, I judge the game as good.
By that same token, WOTLK had one of the WORST ENDINGS EVER. They shoe-horned the whole "There must always be a lich king" BS out of nowhere just so they could justify them re-using the lich king in the future, and EVERYONE knows it. Sooner or later we're getting northrend 2.0 with the lava-lich king as an expansion.
While that ending was terrible, the WOTLK expansion as a whole is my favorite expansion so far. Awesome lore, great plot twists, best raid ever, awesome synergy between the horde and alliance, best quest-chain ever (Battle for UC, we miss you) and more. A bad ending doesn't make the rest of the expansion an abysmal failure.
So I'm gonna have to re-play ME2 completely from scratch.
You could always just use
one of the pre-made ME2 save files
I could, but it wouldn't be the same.
I follow my own morality, I'm neither full paragon, nor full renegade, I choose what fits with my personality, and own moral compass, as such I don't think there's a save out there that meets my chosen criteria, of perfect mix between being renegade at some points and paragon at others.
Besides its not the same thing, and I can't even rename them.
I did downloaded one of those pre-made files for a 100% paragon alternate shepard, but my main one, I'm gonna use the original.
Post by
buzz3070
This however WILL affect my campaign somewhat, since i've heard that in order to secure the best endings you need to have a maximum of 5000 military strenght, and that is impossible to obtain without bossting your effectiveness rating on multiplayer.
Actually bioware said that you can get the best ending without touching the multiplayer. You just need to do every single mission in the game to get it. Judgeing from your enthusiasm about the game that wont be an issue.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Buzz- I did every singe mission in all 3 games paragon style, and I didn't break 8000. In order to get to 10k, you'd have to have a specific mix of paragon and renegade options picked specifically for war resources.
Post by
buzz3070
@Buzz- I did every singe mission in all 3 games paragon style, and I didn't break 8000. In order to get to 10k, you'd have to have a specific mix of paragon and renegade options picked specifically for war resources.
So thats why i did not get a perfect ending.........and i thought it was because i did not do a quest on time. Oh well i guess next time i decide to go through all 3 games ill keep that in mind.
Anyways it was more to point out that his lack of access to multiplayer will not hinder him in his quest for the perfect ending.
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138638
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
@Exec- but you can't play pure Renegade or Paragon, and can't even necessarily make choices that are "in character" to get the 10,000 points you need. You would literally have to play all three games with a list of what decisions you need to make to get the most resources. You're better off just gritting your teeth and suffering through some multi-player. I was so lucky that my BF plays the MP and so I don't have to.
And then I'd wonder if you'd have enough Paragon or Renegade to use the conversation options that require a certain level of one or the other.
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Post by
Thror
Why are you suddenly talking 10k? For the perfect ending, you need 5k. According to what you people just said about getting 8k without multiplayer, it is perfectly reachable.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
What you need is 5k effective score. This is calculated using two factors.
1) Your total points- this comes from the single-player game. I played a pretty completionist, almost totally paragon game, and ended up with just shy of 8k. I think i missed one or two little things over the course of 3 games.
2) There's some kind of percentage (forget the name) that your total points are multiplied by, and if you play no multiplayer, it's around 50%. That means that 8000 points in the single player game, with no multiplayer at all, only counts for 4000 galactic readiness. In order to have 5000 points for the perfect ending, you'd need to either achieve 10,000 points in single-player (which is what Exec and I were discussing as being impossible to do without taking both renegade and paragon options specifically for the purpose of getting assets), or to raise that percentage by playing multi-player. For example, if you get it to 75%, and you had a score of 8000, you'd have 6000 points for end game that would allow you to get the best ending.
Thror- I thought you had played?
Post by
Thror
Oh. I just had no idea what the Galactic Readiness did. I should have read the tooltips better /shrug. Nevermind, I understand now.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I'm sure you're not the only one. I think that's why a lot of people complained they had over 5000 but couldn't get the perfect ending. They were only reading the top.
Post by
Thror
Well, I went into the last mission with about 6k in resources and my Galactic Readiness was 100% (I love that multiplayer). I didn't get to see the "best ending" because I picked the blue pill instead of red though. So I got indoctrinated woot.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Well, I went into the last mission with about 6k in resources and my Galactic Readiness was 100% (I love that multiplayer). I didn't get to see the "best ending" because I picked the blue pill instead of red though. So I got indoctrinated woot.
That theory hasn't been confirmed yet :P
But I will probably actually bite the bullet and play the final mission today or tomorrow (I was stalling- lol), and pick my ending assuming that the aforementioned theory is actually correct.
Post by
Rankkor
This however WILL affect my campaign somewhat, since i've heard that in order to secure the best endings you need to have a maximum of 5000 military strenght, and that is impossible to obtain without bossting your effectiveness rating on multiplayer.
Actually bioware said that you can get the best ending without touching the multiplayer. You just need to do every single mission in the game to get it. Judgeing from your enthusiasm about the game that wont be an issue.
One of the many reasons fans are upset about the ending. Bioware promised that the multiplayer would not be mandatory to get the best one. That is just not the case.
There are 3 things you need to get the best ending (elhonna already explained it below but I'll go into a bit more detail)
For every mission you complete from ME1 ME2 and ME3, you get something called "War Assets", these are obtained exclusively via single-player, and you need 5000 to get the best ending. But there's also "Galactic Readiness" a percentage that at the start of the game is at 50%.
This 50% effectively cuts whatever war assets you got in half. It can only be increased via multiplayer matches. So, in order to get the best ending, without touching the multiplayer, you'd need 10000 War Assets, and that number is just flat-out impossible.
For example, I killed the original council on the first ME1, due to that, I just lost 1000 war assets (due to not having the dreadnought "Destiny's Ascension". Due to that alone, there is no way in hell for me to get the best outcome =/
Of course, this is all null because honestly, regardless of how good your "Effective Military Strenght" (This is the end result of your war assets after the galactic readiness is applied to them) ALL 3 ENDINGS SUCK.
The only thing this whole resource thingie does, is prevent you from getting the worst ending. And give you a "blink-and-miss-it" moment of someone living or dying.
I'm hoping that among the things they have planned to do to fix the ending, they also include either a drastic reduction of the needed Effective Military Strength to get the best ending, or they provide more when importing a save from a previous game. Because, unless you do a really bizzare and out of character playthrough from all 3 games, its not possible to get enough.
Also =( sad panda, this copy of ME3 is so pirated I can't install any DLCs to it T_T
tried to download "From Ashes" from a torrent site, installed it, and ME3 crashed, had to uninstall the whole thing, and reinstall ME3 from scratch. Heck the whole thing is so pirated, that the client is in russian, the voice-acting in english, and the subtitles in spanish =/
This doesn't bode well for the "fixed ending" if its in the form of a DLC. If its in the form of an expansion pack there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.
Edit:
Also, minor complain:
T_T my armor color isn't available. I tried to recreate my AWESOME armor from ME2, but the dark red with shiny material isn't there anymore. All the hues of red available are too bright, I look like a teletubbie.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
The idea with the indoctrination thing, is that the reason they didn't put the rest of the ending on the disc, or include it right away, is because they wanted people to think that they made the right choice, even if they picked a solution that meant that they'd been indoctrinated...because that's how indoctrination works. If you find out right away that two endings stop right there, with surreal montages that seem to make no sense, and the third has you waking up in a pile of rubble with people saying "Wow, we thought we lost you there- you seemed to get all glazed over and were talking to yourself. Thanks for killing the reapers, though! BTW, none of that crazy stuff actually happened because...well...your crew is still on Earth, and to fix a half dozen species problems, only to have those fixes be useless because the people who you help were destroyed in a EMP pulse/ stranded away from their new home world/ stranded away from the females of their species/ stuck in a system that doesn't grow food they can eat, would have invalidated the whole 3rd game."
I'm not saying I buy it. But that's what people who do believe the indoctrination theory seem to feel will happen.
The term they actually used for the ending "fix" was "a series of content initiatives" which is delightfully vague, but I think it won't be a DLC. At least not a paid one.
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