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Post by
gamerunknown
MyTie:
Eh, I don't really have an argument at the moment. I agree that one has the right to be suspicious of someone proposing something without them noting that they have the best interests of the country at heart. But repressive legislation has always been couched in the language of patriotism, either by Hamas in Palestine, Gadaffi in Libya or the PATRIOT Act in the US. Perhaps I just regard myself as a world citizen because I have tri-nationality (Irish, English and American), but I was raised with no particular affinity to any one country: only the principles behind various actions of their governments.
I think that in order to reside in America I'd have to renege my English and Irish citizenships, which I think is a little unfair. In terms of voting, that's fine, but for other points such as having to apply to re-enter the country I've spent most of my life in, it seems a little harsh.
Post by
MyTie
MyTie:
I think that in order to reside in America I'd have to renege my English and Irish citizenships, which I think is a little unfair. In terms of voting, that's fine, but for other points such as having to apply to re-enter the country I've spent most of my life in, it seems a little harsh.
One can be a citizen of multiple countries at the same time. I think that you can be a citizen of England, and Ireland, and still pledge yourself an ally of the United States, since all those countries are allies. It might be hard to pledge your allegiance to both North and South Korea, but that isn't what you are looking at. It shouldn't be out of order for British and Irish citizens to perform the United States pledge of allegiance.
I, as an American citizen, happily declare myself an ally to both Britain and Ireland. I love both of those countries, and their deep historical and cultural roots. If anyone were to attack Britain or Ireland, I would vote in favor of war against that country (unless it was from another of my allies, and then it would really depend on the circumstances of the attack, but that is getting too complicated for this example).
Post by
ElhonnaDS
http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-occupy-wall-street-to-pick-up-chicks/
Oh...My...God...
I was almost in tears from reading this, I was laughing so hard.
Post by
Heckler
http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-occupy-wall-street-to-pick-up-chicks/
Oh...My...God...
I was almost in tears from reading this, I was laughing so hard.
lol, Cracked is silly xD
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I totally want to write for them. I wonder if they review freelance pieces.
Post by
Azazel
I totally want to write for them. I wonder if they review freelance pieces.
But do you have the comedic skills needed?
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I'd like to think I do. I guess it's more their opinion than mine that counts, though.
Post by
Azazel
If you do get in, don't turn into another Christina H. Just. Don't...
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I don't know who that is- I just was introduced to this website like 2 weeks ago.
Post by
Azazel
I don't know who that is- I just was introduced to this website like 2 weeks ago.
D:
She is the worst columnist in the history of ever.
Post by
91278
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Post by
chaosultimamage
http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-occupy-wall-street-to-pick-up-chicks/
Oh...My...God...
I was almost in tears from reading this, I was laughing so hard.
My co-workers were looking at me as if I were crazed, which is really nothing new, but still. I love Cracked.
Post by
MyTie
http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-occupy-wall-street-to-pick-up-chicks/
Oh...My...God...
I was almost in tears from reading this, I was laughing so hard.
"The 99% are not clammy people". Win.
I didn't laugh at this. It just isn't funny. 99% of people are clammy? It's repetitive shallow humor. Not the best.
Post by
Azazel
http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-occupy-wall-street-to-pick-up-chicks/
Oh...My...God...
I was almost in tears from reading this, I was laughing so hard.
"The 99% are not clammy people". Win.
I didn't laugh at this. It just isn't funny. 99% of people are clammy? It's repetitive shallow humor. Not the best.
To each their own.
Post by
134377
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Post by
ElhonnaDS
On Patriotism-
I think that there's two ways you can look at patriotism.
A) It can be considered an unconditional devotion to a particual geo-political territory, and it's leaders, presumably putting their welfare above the welfare of others in your estimation of importance. If you look at it that way, I could see that it seems baseless and selfish.
B) It could also be that someone recognizes that any community is only as stong as the people in it, and has taken it on as their personal responsibility to protect, improve and become attached to their community or society. It's not that they have some idea that their country is in any way superior- they just know that if that's the community they're living in, then that's the community that they want to protect, and feel a sense of pride about being a part of. It doesn't mean that people who are living in another country are less important- it just means that the person is starting at home, because that's where the people closest to them are. There are a lot of things in life that are an accident. It's not stupid to love your family just because you didn't choose who they were. Why is it stupid to want to improve the community around you, rather than one that you may never see?
Post by
gamerunknown
Why is it stupid to want to improve the community around you, rather than one that you may never see?
I can't really formulate an argument against this without relying on
this
video. As I said before in the thread, when writing laws that affect people locally, it's always best to have the best interests of a vast majority at heart (exceptions such as criminals). As I also said before, almost every piece of repressive legislation has been based on the same ideals (preserving the community and family values). Even when an individual says that they want to help out in other communities, they may end up repressing the native population even more. Given the vast privileges the highly developed countries have and the incredible military expenditure, it's not surprising that people feel wrought over starving people in East Africa for example.
Post by
Heckler
There's nothing wrong with local focus, but it shouldn't
completely
exclude other localities simply because you'll never see them. In the future, the localities may intermix -- meaning that they're worth consideration now. I like the "Seventh Generation Sustainability" concept by the Iroquois, which sort of demands consideration of non-local events due to the unpredictability of what "local" will mean seven generations from now.
From Paul Krugman after a stroll through Zuccotti Park:
Overall, what struck me was how non-threatening the thing is: a modest-sized, good-natured crowd, mostly young (it was a cold and windy evening) but with plenty of middle-aged people there, not all that scruffy. Hardly the sort of thing that one would expect to shake up the whole national debate. Yet it has — which can only mean one thing: the emperor was naked, and all it took was one honest voice to point it out.
. . .
Thank you, OWS.
Post by
Monday
I don't know who that is- I just was introduced to this website like 2 weeks ago.
D:
She is the worst columnist in the history of ever.
I like Christina, but she's not too funny =/
Gladstone, Soren and O'brien are my favorites.
Post by
HoleofArt
OT: Brockway, Soren, Bucholz, and now Cheese are my favorites. I also love anything by Jacopo della Quercia because they're always so damn interesting and usually about history, my favorite subject.
And Christina isn't
that
bad.
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