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Atik
.....So you want us to walk around naked, and kill things with our bare hands........when we aren't built for that. Oh, and for fun, we'd be %^&*ting and pissing wherever the hell we want, and walking in it...yeah, that's a lot of fun......
No, coverings are natural. We were wearing clothes before we seperated from nature. There are species of sloths that lwt moss grow on them as a covering.
And it isn't supposed to be fun. It is advancement into a stronger species.
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Atik
We live in a disgusting and unnaturally sperated world instead. And what is even worse is that if someone were to attempt to return to the natural world, they would find themselves in some sort of prison or mental facility as a threat to society; there they would be drugged up so much until they couldn't tell their hands from their asses and were FORCED to conform.
You can easily go out and live in the forest with nothing. I've seen people do it before, you just can't force it upon everyone else.
Hermits, maybe. Anyone else is labeled insane and thrown in a mental hospital.
And I am too desperate for a girlfriend to go hermit...
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Adamsm
.....So you want us to walk around naked, and kill things with our bare hands........when we aren't built for that. Oh, and for fun, we'd be %^&*ting and pissing wherever the hell we want, and walking in it...yeah, that's a lot of fun......
No, coverings are natural. We were wearing clothes before we seperated from nature. There are species of sloths that lwt moss grow on them as a covering.
And it isn't supposed to be fun. It is advancement into a stronger species.
No, we actually weren't; we had a thin layer of fur way back in the day. But hey, if we're back to nature, that means, because I'm bigger and meaner then you, and because I really don't believe or agree with anything you say, under the law of the jungle, I can kick your face in and leave you broken and bleeding; after all, you were just shown that you were weak and no one should help you....and if you have a woman, I can take her from you too.
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Atik
.....So you want us to walk around naked, and kill things with our bare hands........when we aren't built for that. Oh, and for fun, we'd be %^&*ting and pissing wherever the hell we want, and walking in it...yeah, that's a lot of fun......
No, coverings are natural. We were wearing clothes before we seperated from nature. There are species of sloths that lwt moss grow on them as a covering.
And it isn't supposed to be fun. It is advancement into a stronger species.
No, we actually weren't; we had a thin layer of fur way back in the day. But hey, if we're back to nature, that means, because I'm bigger and meaner then you, and because I really don't believe or agree with anything you say, under the law of the jungle, I can kick your face in and leave you broken and bleeding; after all, you were just shown that you were weak and no one should help you....and if you have a woman, I can take her from you too.
Except I'm pretty sure I could take you.
And I consider our seperation from nature to be the point we changed from nomadic packs and settled down in locations. Be that point, we had been wearing clothing to keep warm and protect ourselves.
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Adamsm
See the fact that you can take me doesn't really matter; in your 'ideal' world, I am free to attack you as often as I want, till you are finally damaged beyond the ability to heal when you will be killed for being a drain on society.
And I consider our seperation from nature to be the point we changed from nomadic packs and settled down in locations. Be that point, we had been wearing clothing to keep warm and protect ourselves.
Um....what? The nomads wore animal skins too for protection from the elements, which is something animals don't need, since they usually have their own built in clothing. Of course, I keep forgetting, that you know everything, and the rest of us don't....even though you have no backing at all with anything you declare.
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Atik
That is exactly what I am saying about the clothing: coverings are natural, as we had evolved away from all the fur most mammals have.
At one point, we stopped being hunter-gatherers and sat down in one spot. We suddenly found out how to farm and it has been downhill ever since. We found out we could escape the natural world by building a house with walls and simply ignoring the predators.
Also, the 'take the woman' thing is kind of flawed as humans are a species that mates for life. I sprcies such as that, the female doesn't just go with the new male.
And furthermore, your analogy goes both ways: I can continuously attack you over and over again. But in the end, it isn't super-likely as it is a waste of time with no true benefit. It would be like a dog just attacking another and being chased off over and over again for no reason: not a very common thing.
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Adamsm
It would be like a dog just attacking another and being chased off over and over again for no reason: not a very common thing.
You know nothing about dog behaviour do you? I know quite a few mutts in my area that do exactly that, as well as attacking anyone who goes near their yard. Happens all the time.
Of course, this is the same ideals from the person who thought Ghost Hunters was real so......
Post by
Atik
Perhaps I should have said wolves, my bad. I meant truely wild dogs.
What you describe are domesticated dogs who are just as removed from the natural world as us.
Post by
Adamsm
And wild dogs do the same thing; if you go into their territory, they'll either A) Drive you out or B) Kill you/maim you/eat you. There are some cases where the areas aren't big enough, and packs do fight among themselves. Look up stories about the wild dogs and coyotes of Central Park in New York.
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Atik
That is from you entering the territory as something they precieve as a threat.
They fight with other similiar animals over said territory as dogs are a territorial species.
Post by
Adamsm
As are humans; or have you never seen the fights neighbors have over really stupid $%^&?
But again, your ideal world is a fairly sad one, since there is no reason to have any emotions beyond rage and anger about people coming into your lands. No reason for love, no reason for devotion to one partner, no reason to be calm or collected; might as well just kill everyone in your way and see how far you can go.
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Atik
Except there is a reason for all those things. Survival and the passing on of your genetic code. As I said, humans fall in love and mate for life. They work towards the same goal as every other living organism: passing on of your DNA as a living legacy.
The only reason human packs would initially be fighting over territory a lot is the overpopulation we have caused. Once the race thined out a bit, there would be much more room for each pack.
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Adamsm
Bull*!@#? Some humans mate for life, but it's not how we were originally encoded: Just like most other males of other species, strongest one went around and got the best females(multiples) to pass along the genetic material, and the females wanted the strongest male as their main mate. Only after civilization popped up that one man one woman relations started popping up....and that's still not the standard, as the bigamist sects prove . As for your overpopulation comment; there is a large difference between space for people and actual livable areas. There's a reason why most of the major cities are where they are.
See, any time you go 'I say' can tell your full of it Atik.
Post by
Atik
But going back to nature at this point, we have come to the point where most would mate for life.
Post by
Adamsm
But going back to nature at this point, we have come to the point where most would mate for life.
I doubt that a lot. The original coding would come back fairly quickly. And actually, mating for life is a bad thing; since if you lose your mate before you pass on the genes, you'll never choose another mate.
Post by
Atik
I still don't understand how wanting this sort of lifestyle makes me a "terrible person"...
Nor do I understand how people can feel bad for the kid in that photo or people in Japan... I just don't see a reason to care...
Post by
Adamsm
It's because your 'ideal' lifestyle would $%^& with everyone else, taking their lives away from them because you 'think' you have a good idea. I have no desire to return to nature, as I'm fine with the way our lives are now; yes, there is a lot of bad *!@#, but at the same time, we are working on fixing it.
Post by
Atik
But our "fixing" of it only uses the same style that screwed it up in the first place; unnaturally altering everything.
And as I said, if I tried to just go on and live like this, it wouldn't help with what I am trying to change at all.
Let us say I go on and begin living like an animal tomorrow.
People would see me and word would quikly spread. The way I kill and eat my own food would be labeled as "barbaric" and I, personally, would show up in some form of news as a "freak."
Eventually, someone would decide I was a threat to society. Cops or someone would come and capture me and I would be thrown into either a prison or mental institution.
Neither of those sound appealing to me...
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