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Post by
Jubilee
You can do that married. That still doesn't explain the problem.
Post by
Atik
You can do that married. That still doesn't explain the problem.
YOU ASKED THE PERSON TO MARRY YOU
It DESTROYS the very foundation of connectivity I am trying to explain. You ASKED them to feel the same. You ASKED them for their vows. You ASKED them if they were ready to spend their lives with you.
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240140
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Jubilee
Yes, because we are slightly smarter than average monkeys that have developed language as a way of communication. We talk to each other. Love grows and blossoms in part through the language between partners.
Post by
Atik
Talk is different than questions.
You can talk to someone and learn more about them and grow closer.
But asking them is showing a lack of your absolute trust and love.
To ask someone if they love you shows your doubt in whether or not they do.
To ask someone to marry you shows your doubt in that they will remain with you.
Post by
Jubilee
So in summary, since you can't ask a loving question, no one can?
Post by
Atik
So in summary, since you can't ask a loving question, no one can?
I don't understand how a question shows anything but doubt, unless it is a purely informative one like "Where did you grow up?"
Post by
Jubilee
Even if you already know the answer to a question, it's often proper to ask it anyway, because it's not your place to answer for the other person even if you do know the answer.
Post by
Atik
Even if you already know the answer to a question, it's often proper to ask it anyway, because it's not your place to answer for the other person even if you do know the answer.
Who says it is proper to ask? What makes that correct? If the answer is so blatantly clear, there should be no reason to.
And Elura: This is my absolute perfect scenario. I don't actually expect this to happen much. But the absolute opposite of what I think of when I think of love is the world we live in where marriage is shoved down our throats.
Post by
Jubilee
Even if you already know the answer to a question, it's often proper to ask it anyway, because it's not your place to answer for the other person even if you do know the answer.
Who says it is proper to ask? What makes that correct? If the answer is so blatantly clear, there should be no reason to.
I'll answer that by asking a question. Is this proper to ask: should we go ahead and try for a child, honey? If you answer no, then I see no point in discussing anything further. If you answer yes, then obviously you have some criteria for what is proper to ask already. Since you're the one who is saying that there are improper things to ask, then you tell me what your criteria is.
Post by
Atik
I say no, it really isn't proper to ask.
The entire point of sex is procreation. If you are having sex, a child coming from it is a job well done.
Post by
Jubilee
The entire point of sex is procreation.
I don't want to ask this, I probably shouldn't, but have you actually
had
sex? It does a lot more than just make babies. Why do you think gay people have it? Are you seriously going to end your whole spiel on wordless love with a rule that you can't have sex for any other reason than kids?
Post by
Atik
No.
I have never had sex or masterbated or gotten a blow job or any of that.
There are other reasons for sex, but in the end it is all procreation in an attempt to further our species.
Post by
Jubilee
Not only are you not even giving a straight argument, but it's on a subject you have no experience with. Could I suggest living a little bit more before you try to convince other people that their experience is invalid? I obviously can't argue against whatever it is you're basing everything off of, because my position is based on what I have actually experienced.
Post by
Atik
You now seem to be mixing sex with love.
Clearly, you should only have sex with someone you love. But it should not be how you express said love.
Post by
Jubilee
But it should not be how you express said love.
Sex is one of the most intimate ways of expressing love. Trust me. Been there done that.
Post by
Atik
But it should not be how you express said love.
Sex is one of the most intimate ways of expressing love. Trust me. Been there done that.
I really don't see how.
There are so many other and far more spectacular things to do with someone you love. Out society is so advanced it offers endless possibilities in how to spend time with someone you love.
And you just ignore them all and say "nope, sex is better."?
Post by
Jubilee
I really don't see how.
Of course you don't! You've never had sex with someone you love. What's ridiculous is that fact that you somehow conclude from the fact that "you don't see how" that it's not true in reality either.
Post by
Atik
May I ask what any of this has to do with marriage?
Post by
Jubilee
Do I need to go back 8 or so posts and point it out to you? The point you said that it's wrong to ask your significant other if she wants to have children. You have a problem with asking questions if you love someone. I gave a question, and now I'm trying to get you to realize that it's a perfectly normal question to ask. Once I've done that. I'll go back and have you revise your condemnation of all questions and see what your new criteria is.
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