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Post by
Azrile
These items weren't intended for you. That is, for people who raid. If you already have a 359 item there will be no need to get one of these. Yes. It's clear that that Blizzard would not be intending the new weapons to be used by people who have gone through much of the current content. This is at odds with the rest of the crafted gear though, which definitely
does
appear to be intended for raiders, since it's level 378, and necessitates raid drops to craft it. I caught myself ass-u-me'ing that all the new craftable gear would all be of the same item level.
Perhaps the enhancement shammies can't complain too much though, 'cos our current BiS off-hand is BoE as is our 2nd-best main hand, and both dropped from raid trash. And they were no more expensive on the AH than the new craftable weapons will be.
I used the same 219 weapon while in cat or bear form, Marrowstrike, for more than a year. The 232 items was essentially the same and I never did get the 251 quest item to drop for me.Marrowstrike was insanely good. My hunter's first LK encounter was with Marrowstrike. Only a 251 weapon provided any kind of upgrade.
You get the weapon recipes by questing solo, and they require chaos orbs that you get inside 5mans. You get the armor recipes from inside a raid and they require an item that drops only in raids... I think it should be pretty obvious who each are intended for. The weapons are intended for people who don´t raid, who are more than likely using them as an upgrade from Troll 353s.
Post by
dehotz
Disappointed in the lack of an enhancement shaman weapon. Especially when they took the time to make one for every other class/spec.
I can't for the life of me figure out why they would make the 1h agil weapon a sword. Either a mace or axe would make it usable by both rogues and enhance. After all wasn't that the whole point to giving rogues axes, so they wouldn't end up in situations like this? Just stupid.
Post by
pokpokeredar
I am glad that my BS is my main, but at the same time I am sad at how long it is going to take to give these weapons to my alts. 25 days of dailies just to buy the patterns at 300g each. Next to get the five orbs each that is probably 10 heroics assuming I win 50% of the rolls so there is another 10 hours. I have one main and 9 alts all 85 and non raiders. I will be grinding till 4.3.../sigh
Post by
CaoimheX
You get the weapon recipes by questing solo, and they require chaos orbs that you get inside 5mans. You get the armor recipes from inside a raid and they require an item that drops only in raids... I think it should be pretty obvious who each are intended for. The weapons are intended for people who don´t raid, who are more than likely using them as an upgrade from Troll 353s.Your analysis and hindsight are 100% correct. :)
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Post by
ragnar1
Overall, most professions will be happy to see a lot of lucrative items to craft are in this patch--from
PvP to PvP
gear, to glyphs, and even a scope!
The PvP patch ;)
Post by
healingenzo
Calculating for my hunter, based on pre-4.2 gems. He has Mandokir's Trbute Bow (troll bow passive), the new gun (reforging mastery to crit) is :
+70 DPS
+13 agil
+36 crit
-64 Haste / +44 Mastery
It's a boatload of Truegold. But my engineer has 3 stacks of chaos orbs & nothing to make - and is a miner, so can mine the hardened elementium. I'll make 1 for my hunter, for sure.
In all new recipes, Truegold looks the really stumbling block - need to reduce CD to 6 hours at a guess, or some people will simply stop at pre-4.2 heroics & not bother going further.
Post by
Azrile
I am glad that my BS is my main, but at the same time I am sad at how long it is going to take to give these weapons to my alts. 25 days of dailies just to buy the patterns at 300g each. Next to get the five orbs each that is probably 10 heroics assuming I win 50% of the rolls so there is another 10 hours. I have one main and 9 alts all 85 and non raiders. I will be grinding till 4.3.../sigh
why would you wait until after you get the patterns to get the orbs? My engineer and BS are both sitting on orbs. They are the same orbs you can get now. Only the raid-armor stuff requires new stuff.
Post by
Azrile
Calculating for my hunter, based on pre-4.2 gems. He has Mandokir's Trbute Bow (troll bow passive), the new gun (reforging mastery to crit) is :
+70 DPS
+13 agil
+36 crit
-64 Haste / +44 Mastery
It's a boatload of Truegold. But my engineer has 3 stacks of chaos orbs & nothing to make - and is a miner, so can mine the hardened elementium. I'll make 1 for my hunter, for sure.
In all new recipes, Truegold looks the really stumbling block - need to reduce CD to 6 hours at a guess, or some people will simply stop at pre-4.2 heroics & not bother going further.
I think people will be surprised at how many people have been hoarding truegold for the past month as soon as these recipes first showed up on the PTR. My guess is the price of truegold is not going to go up substantially (about 750 on my server)... just way too many transmute alchemists out there doing it every day. Weapons will go for maybe 5000g when they are finally available. Once some of this gear, along with the new VP gear gets into circulation, heroic 5mans are going to be 15 mins and orbs won´t be a problem.
Post by
AntiFrizzz
aww, no new engi glasses
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Post by
ping101
Really digging the crafted one handed agility axes. My enhance shaman is going to be very happy.
I'm assuming either...
A) This was sarcasm.
B) You looked at incorrectly.
C)I'm missing something.
Post by
LuxxTheHuntress
Are JC ever going to get to craft PvE trinkets? The added stat bonuses from the 3 gems are nice, but I don't think it makes up for the fact that gems are so severely underpriced in AH's on most servers.
Post by
andape
well atleast they have some cool recipes for cata :)
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Post by
vengfulr3ap3r
I wouldn't be surprised if you had new alchemy stones in a coming patch and you will have epic transmutations for 4.3 so they will have some big updates for you guys.
Woot for the epic gem transmutes (when we see them) as well as new alchemy stones. boo for yet another thing to share the exact same 1day cooldown along with gold, truesilver, wrath epic gems, wrath eternals, BC primals, vanilla essences, living elements... truegold.... etc. Dont get me wrong I dont mind a 1day CD at all, Nor do i want transmutes to lose there CD completely (unless its like.. old world stuff that really doesnt matter, truesilver for an example or gold), I mean how else would i turn a profit :P. It would just be kinda nice for everything to have its own CD or something. Vs like.. 10+ different transmutes on a single CD.
I mean, How annoying would it be to cast swiftmend, as a resto druid, and be locked out of all healing spells for 15 seconds? Pretty much the same concept except with alchemy.
*crosses fingers hoping for some alchemy lovin*
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Post by
Azrile
Why is it that LW/BS/Tailors all can make lvl 359 items and soon the next top of the line.
Meanwhile JC/ENG/Inscr get shorted again. Would it be horrible if an ENG could turn a profit
making a high level gun? Or JC making a high level ring or neck piece? Why are these professions cheated?
Don´t know how many profs you play, but JC has been the only prof really making a profit the last 3 months. Yeah, my LW, BS and Tailor can all make 359 items... which I can then sell for less than the mats. There are 359 rep rewards and easily farmable 353 troll heroic epics that are much easier to get than the mats to make them.
I have every profession, and I stopped even messing around with the ´good ones´ you mentioned back in January. The only thing I do now is JC and Alchemy... When 4.2 hits, JC is going to again, be the big money-maker just by prospecting dirt-cheap elementium. BS, after 23 days of grinding dailies, will probably have a few weeks of making money, but again, the mats will probably go for more than the items and everyone and their brother will have the recipes within a month. My only ´hope´ of making a profit with BS is because my BS is also a tank and gets insta-queues so easy farmable orbs... but even then, there are probably dozens of BSs on my server that have been saving orbs for the past 2 months.
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