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HiVolt
So, in season two nothing at all happens, in season 3 all of the comics happen at once. Not sure if I like it or if it's... too much at once.
I don't really think that it's too much at once, but that it's more about really trying to separate the comics from the TV series. Granted, they've already done quite a lot of that. But, I think that by the time... let's say season 5 rolls around(if it gets that far, which I really wouldn't doubt at this point) we'll be seeing story arcs that have been conceived entirely for the show and make no appearance whatsoever in the comics.
I tend to think that it's a good thing, too. In that way, they can certainly draw inspiration from the comics, but they're not limited to exclusively using the story arcs from the comics. It opens up a whole different field of possibilities for what direction the show can take.
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Post by
Gone
I feel like Rick is such a pussy in this episode. We have Carl manning up and taking care of his sister, while the dad is running around on a giant tantrum. I feel like the whole psychotic break was kind of forced, in the comics Lori was murdered right in front of his eyes, after he had his hand chopped off and it came right after a bunch of other character deaths, plus the baby died in her arms He pretty much saw everything he built fall apart around him, and he was suffering from delirium due to an infected gut wound. Compared to all that the TV death seemed almost normal, women die in child birth all the time, if anybody should have been traumatized it was Carl, he saw his mother sliced open in front of his eyes, and then had to shoot her corpse in the head.
Every character has something special about them, Andrea's this amazing sniper, Michonne has her sword, Abraham had his impressive handlebar mustache, Carl's channeling Damien from the Omen, and Rick is the leader, hes the solid one, the one that doesn't fall apart when people die. And they have his character running around like a little b!tch while his daughter could die without formula, and his son is taking care of business.
EDIT: Holy $%^& lol, I been rewatching season 2 on Netflix while I type out this term paper, and when Daryl is digging through Merle's bag of drugs he mentions crystal meth, and you can see the blue meth of Breaking bad.
Post by
Adamsm
So, in season two nothing at all happens, in season 3 all of the comics happen at once. Not sure if I like it or if it's... too much at once.
I don't really think that it's too much at once, but that it's more about really trying to separate the comics from the TV series. Granted, they've already done quite a lot of that. But, I think that by the time... let's say season 5 rolls around(if it gets that far, which I really wouldn't doubt at this point) we'll be seeing story arcs that have been conceived entirely for the show and make no appearance whatsoever in the comics.
I tend to think that it's a good thing, too. In that way, they can certainly draw inspiration from the comics, but they're not limited to exclusively using the story arcs from the comics. It opens up a whole different field of possibilities for what direction the show can take.
Technically, they've already been doing that; a lot of season 1 and 2 had only a very passing resemblance to comics. Season 3 is the closest they've gotten.
Post by
Patty
I don't think that Rick finally crumbling after the last, what was it, eight months of putting on a strong front because of his overall responsibilities and stepping up as a leader when his personal relationships are struggling is a sign of him being weak. He had hope in the prison, and it was
his
(idealistic) decision to settle there. Therefore he feels responsible for what happened and has had his ideals of the prison completely shattered. He's heavily grieving and angry at himself, along with probably suffering from some form of mental breakdown. I don't think that is acting like a "pussy". I think it was inevitable in that sort of situation.
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Gone
I don't think that Rick finally crumbling after the last, what was it, eight months of putting on a strong front because of his overall responsibilities and stepping up as a leader when his personal relationships are struggling is a sign of him being weak. He had hope in the prison, and it was
his
(idealistic) decision to settle there. Therefore he feels responsible for what happened and has had his ideals of the prison completely shattered. He's heavily grieving and angry at himself, along with probably suffering from some form of mental breakdown. I don't think that is acting like a "pussy". I think it was inevitable in that sort of situation.
Well half of what I said was in spoiler tags, but i want to reiterate, he has not been through &*!@ compared to what he was pushed to in the comics when he finally had his breakdown. You think what has happened so far is bad? Trust me, you aint seen nothing yet.
And even then he still never let Carl see it, or let it blow back on the group. For %^&* sake the ordeal was harder on Carl than it was on him, and he was acting more responsible than Rick was. I'm ok with a character having a breakdown, but that ^&*! was forced and a bad choice by the writers. Having Rick, who is supposed to be the most solid character of them all, have a breakdown like that when the group,
and his daughter
needed him, over such a small thing (in comparison) is a weak choice, so yes TV Rick is being a pussy. At least compared to Carl and definitely compared to his comic counterpart.
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HiVolt
Two different characters, man. As Adams and I said earlier, they're not trying to make an exact replica of the comics, that much is evident. You can't look at the source material as a model for what is supposed to happen because, as the entirety of the show has revealed, the comics and the show are two separate entities with (nearly)wholly different characters and story arcs.
Also, if you ask me, TV Rick is much more realistic in how well he has been able to handle the things he has had to go through than was comics Rick. Comics Rick seemed to be far too in control of himself given the circumstances of what he's experienced. I mean, the whole thing with the phone happened as soon as there was a phone available in the comics. It just so happens that it was available a little earlier in the TV show. And as far as going on a rampage and clearing out the walkers that got into their cell block... I would probably have done the same thing were I in his position. Granted, he could have been more tactful about it and realized that his family needed him more than ever at that point, but grief isn't rational.
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Gone
Two different characters, man. As Adams and I said earlier, they're not trying to make an exact replica of the comics, that much is evident. You can't look at the source material as a model for what is supposed to happen because, as the entirety of the show has revealed, the comics and the show are two separate entities with (nearly)wholly different characters and story arcs.
I never said he should be like the comic Rick, just that he kind of pussed out in that last episode, and that the comic Rick had the same break from reality after a much more brutal series of events which ended in Lori's death and still reacted better to it.
Also you have to realize the general story and character models are based on the comics. Taking a different path with a character is one thing, #$%^ting all over them is different. It's just like Andrea being this whiney little twat in the first half of the second season.
Also, if you ask me, TV Rick is much more realistic in how well he has been able to handle the things he has had to go through than was comics Rick. Comics Rick seemed to be far too in control of himself given the circumstances of what he's experienced. I mean, the whole thing with the phone happened as soon as there was a phone available in the comics. It just so happens that it was available a little earlier in the TV show. And as far as going on a rampage and clearing out the walkers that got into their cell block... I would probably have done the same thing were I in his position. Granted, he could have been more tactful about it and realized that his family needed him more than ever at that point, but grief isn't rational.
I hear where you're coming from man, but I still can't get passed Carl handling the situation like champ, when he actually had to shoot his mother and watch her being sliced open, meanwhile the supposed leader of the group is rolling around on the floor and letting everybody else go out and risk their lives.
I mean lets be honest, a woman dying in child birth isn't unique to the Walking Dead universe... Carol lost her daughter, Daryl could have lost his brother, Carl lost mother. Pretty much every character in the group has lost somebody and none of them had a breakdown on that scale.
Post by
HiVolt
Dammit, I just wrote out a response and it didn't post all of it.
I don't feel like writing it all out again, so I'll just say that I disagree with your assessment and leave it at that.
Post by
Gone
Haha I hate it when that happens.
It all cones down to personal preference really, especially with something as subjective as entertainment. I will say I really have been enjoying this season much more than the others, and I think both the comics and the show are great. I just feel like that one scene was rushed, Ricks breakdown happened too soon and I didn't buy it. But while I may not have responded well to the last episode, others clearly have so I guess the shows doing something right in either case.
I love how they're handling the Governor, and I like Merle being back too. A lot of his scenes make me wonder why Rick never got a badass prosthetic like that for his stump...
Post by
HiVolt
Yeah, I wondered that as well. I was thinking, when
Rick got his hand cut off
that he would eventually get a prosthetic of some kind, and that's what they were basing Merle's prosthetic off of in the show. Apparently, not the case, at least not as far as I've read, anyway.
And I totally agree, this season is much better than the previous two, so far. But, that also worries me a little, because if you look at the trend in TV writing, the third season of a show is almost always the best season for nearly any series. It seems like that's when the writers really hit their stride, and after the break, they just lose that momentum. Some shows, it doesn't happen, so we can only hope that it's like that with this one.
Post by
Gone
Yeah, I wondered that as well. I was thinking, when
Rick got his hand cut off
that he would eventually get a prosthetic of some kind, and that's what they were basing Merle's prosthetic off of in the show. Apparently, not the case, at least not as far as I've read, anyway.
And I totally agree, this season is much better than the previous two, so far. But, that also worries me a little, because if you look at the trend in TV writing, the third season of a show is almost always the best season for nearly any series. It seems like that's when the writers really hit their stride, and after the break, they just lose that momentum. Some shows, it doesn't happen, so we can only hope that it's like that with this one.
Idk about that, Breaking Bad and Dexter's fourth seasons are widely acknowledged as being the best. IMO Sons of Anarchy also had a better fourth season than the first or third. I kind of think the reason they are doing so much better this season is that they picked up the pace a bit, plus this is also the story in the comics where things really start to pick up for the series.
Also I've failed at predictions before, but I kind of suspect that Merle is going to be the one to cut off Rick's hand, as payback for his own that or the Governor is going to do it on Merle's behalf.
Post by
HiVolt
Well, maybe it's not the case for drama, but I think that it usually is for comedies. My experience watching TV shows is almost exclusively in comedy, so maybe I'm not really in a position to pass judgement on that.
But, yeah I'd totally agree with that prediction. I mean, it almost seems like too good of an opportunity to pass up.
Post by
Rankkor
I haven't been able to find official confirmation about this, but I've been hearing more and more rumors that Highschool of the Dead is FINALLY having a season 2 on March 2013.
THIS MAKES ME SO DAMN HAPPY! T_T
(yes yes, the show has waaaay too much fanservice, and enough eye-candy to give EVERYONE an indigestion and cry out "no more, please!" but behind all the panty-shots, jiggle-boobs, and echii, hides a fantastic FANTASTIC show and by far one of the best and most realistic Zombie Apocalypse settings I've ever seen. A must-see for any zombie fan out there)
Post by
Adamsm
Well hopefully that means the manga will start up again; haven't been any new chapters for more then a year.
Post by
Gone
I'm only about 7 minutes in to this episode, but I kind of get the feeling that this isn't the first minority Merle has chased through the woods...
EDIT: That knife Daryl pulled out of the zombie was a Microtech Scarab, *!@#ing Carol leaving a 500$ knife in a zombies face...
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I caught up on the last 2 episodes tonight- I love Daryl.
When he was pacing back and forth in front of that door, trying to work up to it, it was so sad. I'm glad he caught a break on this one thing, when everything else has pretty much gone to hell.
Post by
HiVolt
Is it just me, or do all of the characters from this season seem so much more interesting?
Post by
ElhonnaDS
They killed off all the boring ones. I think that they still have some non-impressive characters hanging around.
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