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Monday
The Alliance seemed evil in W3, and now it's the New Horde's turn. It will swing again to the Alliance side.
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174967
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Post by
Patty
I think he's referring to Proudmoore.
Post by
Adamsm
No.
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751416
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Frejan
I dunno, I keep thinking that maybe we're not
supposed
to like Garrosh. As many people have pointed out Thrall is Metzen's golden child, if they gave us an incredible Horde leader to replace him he could never come back and resume the mantle of Warchief. Very few people in the community seem to like Garrosh or the things he stands for, if Vol'Jin gets chance to follow through on his threat against Garrosh, that gives Thrall the perfect opportunity to make his comeback.
I've seen suggestion that Sylvannas might be somewhat less than sane at this point. Including theories that there's
something
buried under the Undercity. Something Lovecraftian that may have been awoken by the Scourging to Lordaeron and started first whispering to a relatively receptive Putress & Verimathras, and now to Sylvannas (Who may be having a bit of a Maiev moment, "what is the huntress without her prey?").
Baine seems a little more energetic than his pappy, but still in very much the same mindset, keeping the Tauren on the straight and narrow.
Blood Elves: Did some horrible things to survive the aggressions of the alliance kingdoms, but have largely straightened themselves out and really only crime now is being insufferably arrogant at times.
Trolls be no more evil than they ever been, 'mon. Most of the stuff they do is less evil than... unsavory.
Goblins just see this as a nice gig with a hell of a retainer and plenty of opportunity to blow things up.
I've long held that the Alliance is probably more evil overall than the Horde, Cataclysm seems to bring the two more in line in terms of this.
Night Elves: 10,000 years of hunting and killing any sentient that wandered into Northern Kalimdor (with a few exceptions, Furblogs, and Moonkin, mostly) without even offering them the chance to leave.
Humans: Thrall breaks his people out of labour camps, and leaves. Doesn't make war on anyway needlessly, doesn't try and conquer a new kingdom for them, they just make a break for it and head out across the ocean. For this brazen act of running for their lives the orcs are hunted, first by the Armies of Lordaeon, then Kul Tiras to the far reaches of the world.
Dwarves, Gnomes, Draenei, Worgen: Nothing particularly bad about them. Dwarves are kinda greedy, but otherwise a good group.
So we've got two races who do "evil" things regularly, Orcs & Forsaken on the Horde side, Humans and Night Elves on the alliance side, with the rest of the races being more neutral or even leaning towards wholesome.
Post by
Frejan
and a Night Elf park, for chrissake.
That should probably be in the past tense...
Post by
Monday
Humans: Thrall breaks his people out of labour camps, and leaves. Doesn't make war on anyway needlessly, doesn't try and conquer a new kingdom for them, they just make a break for it and head out across the ocean. For this brazen act of running for their lives the orcs are hunted, first by the Armies of Lordaeon, then Kul Tiras to the far reaches of the world.
At this time, the Warsong clan were still pillaging and killing humans, and this was not very long after the end of the Second War, where the Orcs almost destroyed Lordaeron. Of course they're going ot be chased (although Proudmoore was a %^&*!@.)
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Adamsm
Pillaging yes, but they only ever killed humans who fought against them; they didn't go out of their way to destroy towns or villages and slaughter civilians.
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HoleofArt
I've seen suggestion that Sylvannas might be somewhat less than sane at this point. Including theories that there's
something
buried under the Undercity. Something Lovecraftian that may have been awoken by the Scourging to Lordaeron and started first whispering to a relatively receptive Putress & Verimathras, and now to Sylvannas
Wait, what? The theory makes sense, I suppose (assuming that the entity they were trying to bring in during Wrathgate wasn't Kil'jaeden/Sargeras/whatever I don't remember), but I've never heard about this before.
Post by
Adamsm
There's nothing under Capitol City.....now, somewhere north of that is the Glade where the original High elf settlers went nuts.....
Post by
Morec0
There's nothing under Capitol City.....now, somewhere north of that is the Glade where the original High elf settlers went nuts.....
Yogg-Saron's influence extended all the way into Azjol'Nerub. Whatever drove the high elves nuts probably is underneath the whole of Tirisfal, corrupting it.
EDIT: Still, that's a new theory to me.
Post by
HoleofArt
There's nothing under Capitol City.....now, somewhere north of that is the Glade where the original High elf settlers went nuts.....
Yeah, I knew about that, but the theory that there's something directly influencing higher ups that lives under UC is definitely new to me.
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Krutos
Excuse my offtopicing here, but to my knowledge US forces never got to Berlin in during WW2. If I remember correctly, they stopped to Rhein and let the Soviets take Berlin.
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Krutos
Aye, so do I. I rest my case
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