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Post by
darkcopper
Darkflight is weak when you are escaping from a bladestorm because it doesn't negate anything, stoopid. Think Hamstring, like any sane warrior would do before BS, and suddenly Darkflight isn't looking so nice after all.
Sounds like you're complaining about stam geared tanks being hard to beat. It really does. Besides, do you know how much DPS they pull? Not to mention that 7k on a stam geared tank is pittance.
And have you noticed.... um...
Arathi Basin: The horde's bridge to BS is right near both Farm and LM, leading to the natural triangle of BS/Farm/LM. This is far superior to the alliance's bridge triangle, GM BS ST, for obvious reasons. Explain that, smart one.
Twin Peaks: Parachuting off the alliance fort crossing half the field and going over the river while being untouchable. Obviously the alliance has an advantage, because they can specifically have a druid carry the flag and get +20% speed compared to their... normal.... travel form......... which is 40% less than a mount anyway.....
Racials: Darkflight still doesn't negate squat, Shadowmeld still sucks for anything but a caster hiding in the bushes >20 yards away, EMFH still has lots of people doing pvp trinket for the resil unless they are in a spellcleave and a top-tier raider, Stoneform still does really nothing unless against a kitty or rogue or as a kitty or rogue, Dranei does nothing unless, and I paraphrase, 'a stam-geared prot pally can negate the equivalent DPS of a warlock pet'. Gnome is the raw equivalent of Forsaken's WotF, which is easily the worst Horde racial of all.
Post by
darkcopper
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that all of the factionhoppers and FotM crowd people are going to switch to alliance for this, because the racials are going ot be overpowered
in the next patch
.Therefore, alliance is the favorite faction of those people.
um............................
I don't mean to call you stupid (history and truth nonwithstanding) but factionhoppers and FotM crowd people
suck
. You don't want them on your team, all they do is waste space and pixel dust that has been known to trip up rocket boots when said boots are used while facing a wall.
Post by
modicumofrespite
The worst BG imbalance has always been the AV RH GY flag which is far behind the RH general's door. This leads Ally to leave the flag completely undefended and many battles are lost due to stealther recapturing that flag. The Horde can stand at the general's door and can't help but see anyone trying to ninja the flag.
Another is the BS run in Arathi. Horde have a several second advantage in running to the most important, central flag and therefore win it initially far more often.
One might argue the Horde Glaives are far more defendable (one access bridge from the Ally Keep vs two roads from Horde Keep).
Post by
158669
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
cloudp
Another is the BS run in Arathi. Horde have a several second advantage in running to the most important, central flag and therefore win it initially far more often.
It's called Path of Frost.
No, it's not closer for the Horde. And the advantage isn't enough to ensure a 10 second clean cap to either faction if both depart at the same time.
Post by
Sas148
How about the fact that, in Tol Barad, near the bridge where the two factions meet to cross, there are 3 guards on the Horde side (making it nearly impossible to evade them to go down that path) and only 2 on just one side of the path on Alliance that allows Horde to easily ride past them on the opposite side without any opposition.
Obvious and easy exploit for the horde when chasing down an alliance toon.
Post by
Beltane
Worgen > Troll for PvP
Troll > Worgen for PvE
Berserking
only has an up-time of 5.56%, averaging a haste increase of 1.12%. Worgen get their sprint (as previously mentioned it allows you less travel time, hence more DPS time) and also they get
Viciousness
. I'd say Worgen were better for PvE too.
Racials aside though, the maps tend to either favour alliance. Alliance get to the docks and the hangar faster in Isle of Conquest. Alliance get to Stables before Horde gets to the farm. Alterac Valley has easier to capture towers and easier to hold chokepoints for the Alliance and (if anyone wants to take it) Snowfall is closer to Alliance's spawn at the start.
Show me somewhere that Horde have an inherent advantage.
Post by
cloudp
Berserking can be lined up with all other cooldowns for a bigged dps increase than just checking uptime.
Post by
Beltane
Darkflight still makes Worgen better overall. Even if it didn't, and Horde had better racials, Alliance still have the map advantages in battlegrounds.
Post by
158669
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Glaedr
I'm not sure if anyone has already put this, since I didn't care to read all 5 pages of QQ. But remember the giant pink blocks in Isle? Remember when Alliance doors wouldn't spawn? Now, do you remember how f'ing long it took them to fix that? Yeah, stop your QQ. If you don't like it, roll Alliance.
Post by
233473
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Adamsm
Wow, can't believe this thread is still going on.....
Post by
tuckmuck203
Wow, can't believe this thread is still going on.....
Me neither. I gave up responding because after 5 pages of senseless arguing, nothing's going to come of it.
Post by
mvt2005
i dont know if some one said it but i see alot here that actually says "humans got 2 trinkets" we dont they share cooldown. its not OP at all
Post by
tuckmuck203
i dont know if some one said it but i see alot here that actually says "humans got 2 trinkets" we dont they share cooldown. its not OP at all
No, that's not what we're talking about. Humans can use their racial instea dof using a pvp trinket. So, if you had the one that procs agility and gives 300 or resil, you wouldn't have to use the other slot for a CC escape trinket. You could get darkmoon card: volcano instead. Meaning you can use two DPS trinkets instead of just one.
Now can we please let this topic die?
Post by
darkcopper
Arathi Basin: The horde's bridge to BS is right near both Farm and LM, leading to the natural triangle of BS/Farm/LM. This is far superior to the alliance's bridge triangle, GM BS ST, for obvious reasons. Explain that, smart one.
The Alliance graveyard at stables is right on top of the mine.
Anything else, or should I mention how the alliance is always able to cap stables before horde caps farm when AB begins?
Mhmm, so is the Alliance Graveyard at Blacksmith (c wut I did ther?)
Post by
darkcopper
Worgen > Troll for PvP
Troll > Worgen for PvE
Berserking
only has an up-time of 5.56%, averaging a haste increase of 1.12%
if you're a moron that doesn't use it only when you really need it
. Worgen get their sprint (as previously mentioned it allows you less travel time, hence more DPS time) and also they get
Viciousness
. I'd say Worgen were better for PvE too
if I ever forgot to use my personal Heroism on the burn phase.
Racials aside though, the maps tend to either favour alliance. Alliance get to the docks and the hangar faster in Isle of Conquest
despite the fact that hangar is worse than workshop and horde always gets docks anyway
. Alliance get to Stables before Horde gets to the farm
despite that AB is amazingly horde-favored, not to mention I always cry a little on the inside when the first four bases are capped within the first two minutes and stay that way, and nobody ever caps the fifth, which is the only time that matters
. Alterac Valley has easier to capture towers and easier to hold chokepoints for the Alliance
despite that horde has better turtles and they fixed the tower guard issue a while ago
and (if anyone wants to take it) Snowfall is closer to Alliance's spawn at the start
even though nobody cares about Snowfall
.
Show me somewhere that Horde have an inherent advantage
other than Farm/LM/BS being the best in the game for AB, Twin Peaks slowfall/parachute bug where the FC is untouchable for 2/3 the length of the map when jumping off alliance base, they get Workshop first, and that their racials are STILL better
.
Post by
vincistis
We're letting the topic die remember.
Post by
darkcopper
sorry. The Voices told me to do it.
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