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When did Wowhead General become such a horrible forum?
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Post by
Sinespe
(P.S.: "Tyranny of the majority" is to "Democracy" as "Dihydrogen monoxide" is to "Water"
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Post by
93865
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Post by
Frames
lately seems to have descended into a place
trolled by a few users who think they are demi-gods
seem to disagree with every man and his dog wanting to make a post unless it complies with their strict view on what should and shouldn't be posted on Wowhead General.
I can name those users. Mostly becuase they show up in every thread. They know who they are to. But they aren't trolls. Matter of fact without those users i wouldnt know alot about class mechanics, proper specs and lots of other advice.
They actually help and answer questions correctly. They just are most likely tired of the same questions over and over that with a little thought, or use of the same site they are posting on, can be answered. Only reason they might look like an arse is because they are annoyed.
Post by
Sinespe
Additionally, Aestu, I find it something of a double-standard that you promote Elitist Jerks's forum moderation system, which is one of the most draconian, dictatorial and unfriendly (It is the reason I will never set foot on their forums), when you complained just the other day about Blizzard banning you -- saying it was draconian, dictatorial and unfriendly.
Every functional democracy includes protections for the opinions and welfare of the minority. The absence of such protections leads to one-party rule, or fascism. Fundamental to the character of fascist systems is the belief that what is good for most is good for all, and this has the effect of narrowing a society's horizons.
However, what you do not grasp is that an "upvote" system does not preclude dichotomous opinions from existing simultaneously. If an idea stands on its own merits, it gets accepted. Look at some of the crazy stuff that comes out of quantum theory: it can't all be right, but it's all credible.
An upvote system does not automatically crush the opinion of the minority. If the opinion of the minority is valid enough, it will get more upvotes than downvotes.
I have upvoted, on comments pages, a specific person arguing with me over the Tier 9 set bonus for Shadow Priests, because I felt the discussion warranted a full read from anyone curious -- having only one side of the discussion was going to be pointless.
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis.
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93865
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Post by
Sinespe
What point, if any, are you trying to make, Sinespe?
You ask me this question a lot, phrased in exactly the same way, punctuation and all. I have never answered it. I will, however, ask a question back on this occasion: why do I need to have a point to have a discussion? To cite something you'll be familiar with: what was Socrates' approach?
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93865
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Post by
Sinespe
If you have no point nor are contributing useful information, your post is not constructive and without value.
I will resist the opportunity to zing you hardcore, and will instead ask you again the second question of the two I posed.
Post by
felhunter
almost every time when aestu post something in a thread. that thread turns into some kind of hate aestu thread.
thats one of my biggest drawbacks atm on the wowhead forums.
its a shame really, seen prefect threads gone to waste like this. to be fair and all aestu kinda did call it upon him-/herself
on topic:
anyway its not that bad, just got to find the usefull post from the useless ones (given that can be really hard)
Post by
Adamsm
/sigh The Irony of Aestu post....it burns.....and people say I post useless stuff...
Post by
Sinespe
/sigh The Irony of Aestu post....it burns.....and people say I post useless stuff...
Bunnies, my friend. The answer is always bunnies
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Yes, I am trying to start a movement here.
Post by
TheReal
Some people are just out for recognition and stardom and lacking any other means to achieve them, resort to gaining their notoriety through infamy. Through the filter of delusion, infamy looks a lot like popularity.
Post by
Sinespe
Some people are just out for recognition and stardom and lacking any other means to achieve them, resort to gaining their notoriety through infamy. Through the filter of delusion, infamy looks a lot like popularity.
Careful. You're almost sounding like Aestu.
Post by
TheReal
Some people are just out for recognition and stardom and lacking any other means to achieve them, resort to gaining their notoriety through infamy. Through the filter of delusion, infamy looks a lot like popularity.
Careful. You're almost sounding like Aestu.
Some people want to be popular but by being known as complete asses, they fool themselves into thinking they're popular.
Better?
=)
Edit: I think it's called sociopathy.
Post by
Sinespe
Much!
<3
Post by
Adamsm
/sigh The Irony of Aestu post....it burns.....and people say I post useless stuff...
Bunnies, my friend. The answer is always bunnies
.
Yes, I am trying to start a movement here.
If it's not the Grail Bunny, I don't like them...except in stew.
Post by
Gnub
Now, I hope this thread can actually stay on track, as it seems that the discussion has changed focus.
Sigh. It's quite sad that I have to
repeat
this - even in this thread. :<
Post by
44284
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Post by
xaratherus
James Madison would disagree with that statement.
I had to plough through some of the federalist papers in high school, Tyranny of the Majority was one of his concerns during the initial years of the American democracy. His fear was that the Majority may agree with what is popular, but not with what is right and there had to be some safeguard against that. It is, in part, the reason why we have a senate with two members from each state and a house with representitives proportioned by population, a minimum of two from each state.
The senate keeps the highly populated states like California and New York from controlling all of the legislative branch.
adverbed a verb
Also why certain 'inalienable' rights were clearly defined in the Constitution, and the reason that the federal court system was granted the power to interpret law, and strike them down if they were found to violate one of those Constitutional rights.
That's why I laugh so much hearing people complain when the court overturns a state law that was passed via ballot proposition: A majority vote does not guarantee that such a law will be declared constitutional, and our government is set up to allow the federal court that final decision.
I agree with both of you, in part. Popular election will always result in some level of 'tyranny of the majority', regardless of the safeguards you build into it.
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581897
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