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Post by
goshadstep2lose
"If it was because they just happened to belong to a comp that was OP, then we could assume it was the combination of the classes that made it strong and not the class. But then their teammates in this OP comp would be just as heavily represented, which they are not."
lol, i was too lazy to read everything on the arena chart, so all i saw was the representation of single classes... was there one for the comps they were in as well?
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/team/
Post by
emalkay
lock, lock and ooh y lock
and as in OP cause you're to weak to kill them ofc
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643602
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Post by
Haxzor
You have to have an argument to the contrary other wise your another guy sitting there going Nuh uh, Nuh uh, no your wrong. Unless you come up with anything saying that I am wrong other then your beliefs then you are not contributing to the reason as to why this forum was made. I wasn't seeking advice but I tried giving it and have been called wrong way to many times without a proper argument. Unless you can prove me wrong with some kind of viable proof then(which is what I meant by screen shot or it never happened) then and only then is when I would admit that I'm wrong.
How about you prove YOURSELF with screenshots.
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
You have to have an argument to the contrary other wise your another guy sitting there going Nuh uh, Nuh uh, no your wrong.
but if you want to know where you were wrong-
mana isn't the issue pallies have in mage vs ret, and your reasoning for it is completely non sequitur... why would a mage spellstealing buffs for a pally oom him? are you seriously suggesting he constantly re kings himself?
rogues havent been "caster killers" since at least BC... arguably vanilla
Unless you come up with anything saying that I am wrong other then your beliefshypocrisy, you has it
then you are not contributing to the reason as to why this forum was made. lets compare forum contributions
kgo
I wasn't seeking advice but I tried giving it and have been called wrong way to many times without a proper argument. no one in this thread was seeking advice... you made erroneous claims that were called out
plenty of proper arguments have been made to the contrary, ignore them all you want, but they are still there
Unless you can prove me wrong with some kind of viable proof hypocrisy, you has it
(which is what I meant by screen shot or it never happened) then and only then is when I would admit that I'm wrong. none of the arguments presented are provable/disprovable with screenshots
quit retreating to such an obvious dodge
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628619
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
Typical excuse by fail rogues who are still in a "L2P" case cause they can't insta gib them in a single cheapshot/kidney shot stun sequence.
cool
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243770
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
to be fair , all youve done for the majority of his arguments is just say theyre not correct, you havent really said why they are incorrect:
but if you want to know where you were wrong-
mana isn't the issue pallies have in mage vs ret, and your reasoning for it is completely non sequitur... why would a mage spellstealing buffs for a pally oom him? are you seriously suggesting he constantly re kings himself?
rogues havent been "caster killers" since at least BC... arguably vanilla
ret pallies vs mages: he didnt really state why the spellstealing and debuffs ruined ret pallies mana regen, unless hes talking about the pallies having to cleanse everything (an assumption on my part). your defense to that was pretty much, no that doesnt happen, and that he cant be thinking that pallies rebuff themselves, therefore ooming themselves (which is an assumption about his argument, granted his wasnt very clear)
Blessing of Freedom
Divine Shield
if cleanse is ooming you, you are still doing it wrong
second was rogue killing casters, to which you said, no, hasnt been that way for a long time. and it hasn't, the general consensus is that rogues are more of an anti-melee/anti-healer class due to their inability to deal with the wotlk age survivability and kiting capabilities of casters
fourth was locks vs mages, to which you replied with mage armor. which, granted, most of us know what that means, but doesnt really clearly explain your defense. yes it does, it points out that mages do have abilities that counter locks and therefor ruins any chance anyone could have at making the argument that locks hard counter mages
as a note, i definitely disagree with his statements regarding pally mages and the mana regen thing, and of mages having no chances against locks, but even in saying i disagree, i havent given any reasons why either. /facepalm
but, as i said, you didnt really explain why what he said was wrong, it just turned into a flame war about his comments.
but if you want to know where you were wrong-
mana isn't the issue pallies have in mage vs ret, and your reasoning for it is completely non sequitur... why would a mage spellstealing buffs for a pally oom him? are you seriously suggesting he constantly re kings himself?
rogues havent been "caster killers" since at least BC... arguably vanilla
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243770
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
you're really missing the point.hypocrisy, you has it
both of those comments are just basically saying no to his comments. neither of them explain why. pick and choose moar?
mana isn't the issue pallies have in mage vs ret
rogues havent been "caster killers" since at least BC HAY DOOD LUK WUT U JUS SAID
NO SUPORT
amidoinitrite?
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243770
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
rogues are more of an anti-melee/anti-healer class due to their inability to deal with the wotlk age survivability and kiting capabilities of casters the problem is, my statement goes with the general consensus on the status of rogues in pvp
There is a serious problem when someone states a radical idea with no support and then demands the ones not going against the grain to do what they themselves could not
if he wanted to argue why rogues were "caster-killers" after I made my response, and had the support to do so, he would have been more than able to
saying the sky is brown doesn't demand a response from someone else as to why its actually blue
and yes, the mage armor pointed out that mages have a way to counter locks, although, my point was that i dont think holy understood that. he didn't try to respond to the arguments presented, as strong or weak as they may have been. While not definitive, that points to at least a slight grasp on the point trying to be made... if he didn't understand he would be more prone to respond incorrectly to the statement
and whether he understood or not is irrelevant to whether my arguments were adequately supported
on top of all that, you didn't really respond to his comment about paladins vs warriors. its much easier to make someone look like a dumbass when you only respond to the comments that are clearly wrong. why would I respond to comments that- to my knowledge- are correct?
Im here to weed out the bad information, not praise the correct
I never stated that everything he said was wrong, In fact I clearly stated otherwise
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243770
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
I did explain why he was wrong, if only a little bit
i think its obvious that this guy does not see these things(obviously), and that is where you either fail to, either by choosing not to, or you truly dont see, his point of view: in that in his mind, he has a reason for thinking those things.
That doesn't justify his spread of misinformation. To use an early analogy- I may believe the sky is brown... and I may have reasons for doing so, those reasons don't inherently have validity. He probably is parroting a player that he holds in high regard, or he could have developed these views from playing class
x
incorrectly, he may have read it in an outdated article somewhere...
bad information is still bad information, I pride myself on making it my bitch
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243770
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Post by
Orthis
Depends on who is versing who:
Death knight
VS
Hunter
=
Dead hunter
Fury/arms warrior
VS.
Hunter
=
endless kiting
.
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634023
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