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All new Cata Druid talent tree

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Post by Eikahe

but where for the last 3 points?
OoC and ILotP?

Edit: Also, they should just replace Sublety with Fury of Stormrage.

Post by Joim

Uhmmm
Moonkin
Something like this for tree
As always, subject to change.

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Post by LookOut

I don't really know what good it'll do to reduce the FFF cd by 5 secs. That would mean the cd being 1 sec, or spammable. Like, really? We have enough stuff to push as it is (especially compared to WotLK)!

Unless there's something I'm missing here?

Something I forgot to mention in the other thread: seems like Nom Nom Nom will indeed get a name change :( /sadpanda

Edit: did they add a rage regen to Primal Madness? Or was that already there when the new talents were first announced? Might be interesting to spec into ...

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Post by bwirum

I don't really know what good it'll do to reduce the FFF cd by 5 secs. That would mean the cd being 1 sec, or spammable. Like, really? We have enough stuff to push as it is (especially compared to WotLK)!

Unless there's something I'm missing here?

yea maybe not to reduce it by 5 seconds, but by 1-2 could have had uses coupled with Imp. Mangle. It would essentially remove one of the 'filler' abilites from the tanking rotation by switching the whole thing from a 6sec to 4.5sec routine

Not so sure thats such a good idea though, especially since we will want to be generating alot of lacerates for Pulverise.

On the funside it would mean bears have a rapid fire lazer ranged attack

Could be a good way to keep aggro on casters and stuff, but then again we did get our head butt now, so I'm not really sure of the value for points. Also, was thinking the same thing about lacerates, wouldn't they be our primary filler now, to be used with Pulverize?

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Post by LookOut

And since we are already with this tight on points, I really doubt we'd gonna spend 5 points to lower FFF cd.

This.

Edit: This would be my suggestion. Thick hide, KotJ (let's not start that one again :p), iLotP and and OoC. Yes OoC, because I reckon a free Maul will be damn tasteh :)

And I still got 1/2 Brutal Impact for lowering the Skull Bash cd ^_^

Also, anyone else notice Shredding Attacks (and Infected Wounds) including Ravage now? Probably to make improved Charge more worthwhile :D

Post by skribs

I'm seeing a 1 sec CD on FFF as being very useful if an add like exists on Rotface ever comes up again. FFF spam and it wont go for a healer.

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Post by LookOut

Hmm interesting, I never saw predatory instincts as cat only for Cata.

Still not gonna take MS though, I wantz improved charge :D

Edit: This one looks like fun for some fun in kitty form while not tanking :) 2/2 Brutal Impact and 2/2 Shredding Attacks.

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Post by LookOut

I do know pred inst is cat only atm, I just thought they made it for both bear and cat in Cata ;-) Typos ftw!

I like situational btw, hence why there are a few talents in my spec that are seen as "kitty talents".

^_^

Post by skribs

I'm wondering how much druids are going to change from now until release. This seems like an absurd amount of mobility for now. If they didn't add Imp Feral Charge, I'd have almost assumed that these were replacing FC, but it doesn't look that way.

Post by djlowrider

My take on a tanking build @ 85: 0/61/15

I do think KotJ + Primal Madness is going to be the way to go over MS in Cata. Burning 5 points to get 4% more damage output isn't worth it compared to the utility that KotJ and PM will bring.

And even with the change to Glyph of Maul I still think it's going to be a useful tool. At least, unless we get a Glyph of some kind for Pulverize (did not see one listed at the time I created this build).

I don't get the change to Glyph of Barkskin though. I thought 3/3 Survival of the Fittest made us uncrittable anyway at max level?

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Post by oberondreaming

Something like this for tree

Celestial Focus and Furor are still 100% useless for resto druids. I also remain skeptical about the value of Tranquil Spirit, and suspect that Nature's Splendor will remain a must-have talent. As such, I suspect this will still be the resto cookie cutter.

Post by skribs

I think Nourish will see a lot more use, and tranquility will be used maybe once per fight (8 min CD). I think this will be a bit more powerful..