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How to raise my hp? Emblem gear/heroics!
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Post by
Xepp
Hello!
I am gearing up my dk tank atm and I really like frost DW so I will be doing that. But I have real problems to raise my hp up to.. lets say my paladins lvl (~38.5k ub) He is in almost only emblem/heroic gear and when I build a profile for my dk I reach only 34k. What can I do to reach 38-39k ub without raiding? Is it even possible? I know that frost presence will bump my hp up a little bit but still no wear near my pally. I could use the blue stamina trinket from AN but I am looking for suggestions other then that.
http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=20848129
the DK profile
Are there any other choice then to raid? Pls help with any suggestions if you can.
Post by
oberondreaming
Step 1) Download Rawr
Step 2) Import yourself from the armory
Step 3) Set it to filter out anything you don't want to run (i.e. raids) or pay with (i.e. frost emblems)
Step 4) See the best gear you can get from the things you can run/spend.
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oberondreaming
throw away those 245 emblems pieces and get the 4p t9 bonus, it's just too good not to get it.
4t9 just isn't that great for Frost because UA just isn't that great. Plus, dumping 245 pieces for a couple extra set pieces in 232 is probably going to result in a loss of stamina, the opposite of what the OP is asking for.
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Xepp
throw away those 245 emblems pieces and get the 4p t9 bonus, it's just too good not to get it.
4t9 just isn't that great for Frost because UA just isn't that great. Plus, dumping 245 pieces for a couple extra set pieces in 232 is probably going to result in a loss of stamina, the opposite of what the OP is asking for.
so having higher HP = a better tank?
even if UBA isn't as good as Vampiric blood it's stilla good cooldown to use, it's very spammable and reduces the incoming damage, using it 6 times instead of 5 in a 5 minutes fight will be a lot more mitigation than the 500hp he will loose for having a lower level item
Reason I wanna have high hp is because I am a casual player and when pugging raids, the hp is what raidleaders look at + GS. But lets say that I go blood instead, is 4p t9 worth it then?
How is blood to run in heroics? I heard it lack the same aoe threat that frost got but can it be that bad? with 2x diseases + pest + BB and DD you should hold aggro I think?
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Xepp
I think that depends on the dps of the group, if you have people that are really out-gearing the heroic, and doing insane aoe dps, you're probably going to have a hard time maintaining aggro on the trash mobs. Saying that I've grouped with some really good blood spec tanks, and they've had no problem maintaining aggro on aoe pulls. It may just come down to skill, and asking the dps not to blow their load in the first 2 seconds of the pull, but that's universal for all tanks of all specs/classes.
True true.. I might give it a shot then.. been reading up and it seemse fun :D Hard to decide the specc though. Is Morbidity worth it? Imp Blood Pres? mark of Blood? Scent of Blood? Any idea? =)
I guess Morbidity is good to have. I bet imp Blood pre aint that good in raids.. maybe in heroics but healers usually outgear it so maybe not. Rune Tap?
What do u think of this?
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jcEGVh0Isb0bssxhxZ0gh:Gid
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oberondreaming
so having higher HP = a better tank?
No. I never said that.
But a good tank with higher HP > a good tank with lower HP.
And it's what the OP asked about. Suggesting that a way to "raise my HP" is to throw away 245s for 232s is just flat-out wrong.
even if UBA isn't as good as Vampiric blood it's stilla good cooldown to use, it's very spammable and reduces the incoming damage, using it 6 times instead of 5 in a 5 minutes fight will be a lot more mitigation than the 500hp he will loose for having a lower level item
It just isn't necessary that much, especially in heroics. Pop it on big groups that are going to do a bunch of damage. Pop it on bosses. Giving it a 10s cooldown reduction just isn't worth the loss of stats from the 245 gear (which is more than just stamina by the way).
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oberondreaming
So the numbers work out that 1% avoidance > 1 UBA but arguments could be made that this depends on RNG, and it is not personalized to the OP due to the numbers being averages.
Which is why 4t9 is just pretty pointless as Frost. There's something of a case for it when you go blood, because VB is such a powerful cooldown, but as frost, you're really better off with higher iLevel offset pieces.
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Xepp
So the numbers work out that 1% avoidance > 1 UBA but arguments could be made that this depends on RNG, and it is not personalized to the OP due to the numbers being averages.
Which is why 4t9 is just pretty pointless as Frost. There's something of a case for it when you go blood, because VB is such a powerful cooldown, but as frost, you're really better off with higher iLevel offset pieces.
So basically, I changed to blood now and it raised my hp with about 800hp. But I am now at the point you are discussing. Is t9 4p set worth loosing ilvl 245 helm, shoulders and chest? I think that it might be so but I am not used to rotation my cds and therefore its better for me to use ilvl 245 pieces instead or 4p set.
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