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Post by
asakawa
well, your cheap gems are holding you back and the fact that you're 1.6% over the
hard cap
for hit and
still
using suppression in both your builds suggests you've not really absorbed as much as you think from the stickies.
however, since you can do more dps with a destro spec and that is what you're asking about then you haven't given us NEARLY enough information to help you.
you're using the same gear for both specs and your builds are cookie cutter so the issue is what you're doing and that's what you've not told us.
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asakawa
sp then haste is the same for all specs, you certainly shouldn't have been doing anything vastly different for destro.
we don't use rotations, we use priority lists. but, yes, that's what you need to tell us.
a world of logs/web stats would make diagnosis a lot easier too.
Post by
Zhenbuyaoshi
So don't use cheap gems & lose the suppression, thats what I'm learning so far. As for gear, I've been aiming for spell power then haste for the purpose of affliction only. Spell rotation for affliction is the same its been for the last few patches, unless its changed with the most recent one.
Let me know what other information you would need.
Yeah, I looked at your rare gems, you're missing out on about 43 spell power if you were to replace all of your rare gems that you buy at about 40g-or less, with epic gems that you buy at 200g-or more.
43 spell power isn't really killing you, but yes, it should boost your dps by about what 300 or so, I think that that is about what I see when I use a Flask of the North 47 sp, as opposed to not using one.
However, whether you do it, by spending 10000 honor per epic gem, or 10 emblems per epic gem, or 200g per epic gem, replacing all 11 of your "cheap" gems isn't going to get you the 2kdps results you want. But, overtime at a rate that isn't going to brake your currency banks, slowly replace your gems.
Now, as far as your hit goes, there isn't much you can do about it in terms of your gear, which is pretty awesome btw. But, you have more hit than god, and you need to be rid of supression in your Destro spec. Here is a wacky suggestion. Blizzard seemed to think that it was a significant buff to warlocks so try this. Some others might pipe up and say that I'm crazy, but take the 3 points from supression, take 1 point from shadowfury-I know I love shadowfury too, but its not doing anything for our dps, take 1 point from destructive reach-you'll still have one point in there.
Now you have 5 more talent points to work with. Take these 5 talent points a go to your Demonology tree, and keeping things as you have them work more points in such that you get 3 points into UNHOLY POWER. You can do this in one of two ways, 1 more point in Fel Synergy, 1 point in Soul Link, 3 Points in Unholy Power, or 1 more point in Fel Domination, 1 more point in Soul Link, 3 poins in Unholy Power.
This will boost your imp's power by another 12%. You'll still be hit capped, your demon and you will have a feed back loop of survivability, and you'll have 12% more dps from your imp. In the end, you have super imp backing you up with 42% more power over a standard imp, and your spec is 18/53. I know, it's not one of the listed specs, but it's totally viable, because I've been using it, and it works out to consistently increase your overall dps. Now, it might seem tempting to go and get glyph of imp to make this a whopping 62% more powerful imp, but glyph of life tap is still more powerful. 20% of that nearly 600 spirit you have as spell power is way more dps than 20% more dps than the imp is going to put out.... kinda sad when you think about how our pets are suppose to be such a major part of our power.
BTW, this isn't going to get you the 2Kdps boost you want either, but it's going to give you another boost, and another boost, is just that, another boost that you didn't have before.
Yeah, your glyphs look good, your spell priority is probably good-OH, do you use key bindings for your spells or do you use mouse button clicking, cause it matters A LOT, and you should be using key bindings. Training myself to use key bindings instead of mouse button clicking has increased my dps by at least 500dps on average or more, no kidding... it kinda upsets me to think about all the wasted time before key binding, but game and learn! Also, hopefully you have Quartz the addon, for spell casting latency. Your gear is sweet.... not sure what else to say, good luck!
Post by
asakawa
there's some confused stuff in there zhen but 18/53 is cookie cutter ^_^.
however, the OP should probably consider the utility of the replenishment build before looking to alternatives like the imp build.
Post by
MegaVolt
43 spell power isn't really killing you, but yes, it should boost your dps by about what 300 or so, I think that that is about what I see when I use a Flask of the North 47 sp, as opposed to not using one.
There is no way 43 SP translate into 300 dps.
If I remember correctly 1 SP translates into roughly 2 dps.
@OP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgDjG_0ecTI
Gemming or a few gear upgrades don't matter. They make a 100-200 dps difference at most, not nearly enough to close the gap you are looking at.
I'm afraid you just have to l2p (which is very nicely described in the video) ;)
Post by
Zhenbuyaoshi
43 spell power isn't really killing you, but yes, it should boost your dps by about what 300 or so, I think that that is about what I see when I use a Flask of the North 47 sp, as opposed to not using one.
There is no way 43 SP translate into 300 dps.
If I remember correctly 1 SP translates into roughly 2 dps.
@OP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgDjG_0ecTI
Gemming or a few gear upgrades don't matter. They make a 100-200 dps difference at most, not nearly enough to close the gap you are looking at.
I'm afraid you just have to l2p (which is very nicely described in the video) ;)
Well, then it was even worse, it was more like about 80 -100dps increase overall when I look back at the spirit that would come along with it, too. Thanks for the correction.
Post by
Zhenbuyaoshi
there's some confused stuff in there zhen but 18/53 is cookie cutter ^_^.
however, the OP should probably consider the utility of the replenishment build before looking to alternatives like the imp build.
Replenshment, and Soul Leech, is the cookie cutter, that isn't what I was suggesting, I was suggesting a totally different 18/53, which does work out, and does raise dps. If you are telling me that the 12% imp buff is already a cookie cutter build and not something that I came up with on my own, well then boo on trying to max it out best as I could in a different way than the standard.
This is an honest question, beyond longevity in a fight-which is just longevity could be necessary, could be made up with lifetap. I never go OOM during a boss fight, mostly because I think I have the glyph of Life Tap and have to keep up the life taps, so how does Soul Leech which is just a chance at self healing, and Replenishment which is just a chance at mana regen, translate into giving you more dps than bumping up your imp by another 12%?
I personally consider Soul Leech/Replenishment points spent more for a PvP spec than a PvE spec, but that's just me...
Post by
asakawa
18/53 is cookie cutter for 3.3.2 yes.
replenishment is a raid buff and has importance far beyond its effect on the lock. however, 40 seconds is a long time and even with 100% replenishment uptime and wisdom/totem you
will
LT more than once every 40 seconds. as such it isn't longevity that iSL brings but a direct DPS increase since less taps means more GCDs spent on DPS abilities.
i'm not saying that it is bad advice for the poster to use 18/53 and not 13/58, just that they ought to consider the raid buffs first before looking at other builds.
it's also worth mentioning that 18/53 is only a very minor dps increase over other options and should NOT be seen as "
the
dps option" over the others. it's just another option.
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asakawa
i think it is often overlooked and assumed to be a given that players know that clicking is bad (like keyboard turning). i'll add it to the sticky and hopefully prevent too many other people missing this small but relatively vital point.
Post by
Dosha
Ya I used to click spells before I watched that video a while back and saw my dps increase greatly its amazing how much it can help. I watch that video all the time now to maybe get some pointers Imay have missed or still have not fixed yet.
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