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Nazeka
Even with classes like warriors, who do only physical dps, gemming for ArPen isn't effective unless its to hit the soft cap (100% armor reduction with a trinket proc). Since paladins do so much Holy damage, Strength is much better overall.
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Brique
Armor Pen
only
affects our white hits, CS, and DS, affecting 35% of our damage.
No other attacks. At all.
Every other stat we find affects more of our attacks. :[
It does increase your DPS, but Strength is doubledipped as AP and SP which means every attack benefits from Strength.
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blademeld
CS and DS are both physical damage, so they would be effected by ArP
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Quest
Just curious...do we have any data from rets who stacked Arp to the gills just to see what it would do?
I'd be interested to see the results even if it goes against the CW.
Data = teh sux retardin doing teh suck dps.
results = l2g
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pezz
I always forget this one - a = verb and e = noun?
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blademeld
Touche
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PureGold
Even with classes like warriors, who do only physical dps, gemming for ArPen isn't effective unless its to hit the soft cap (100% armor reduction with a trinket proc). Since paladins do so much Holy damage, Strength is much better overall.
L2 arms warrior.
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valundar
Even with classes like warriors, who do only physical dps, gemming for ArPen isn't effective unless its to hit the soft cap (100% armor reduction with a trinket proc). Since paladins do so much Holy damage, Strength is much better overall.
L2 arms warrior.
or Combat Rogue...
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blademeld
or Combat Rogue...
Because an assassination rogue would gem for strength?
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valundar
or Combat Rogue...
Because an assassination rogue would gem for strength?
Strength?
Assasinate is all + Spirit dontcha know....
;-P
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PureGold
or Combat Rogue...
Because an assassination rogue would gem for strength?
Strength?
Assasinate is all + Spirit dontcha know....
;-P
oh shi- time to regem from my stam gems.
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Post by
PKainus
Well, with the new 2 piece for ret, there is some theorycraft that ArmPen will actually be better than haste once you reach a certain delta. As we all know, ArmPen gets more effective as you get more of it. With Divine Storm being a higher % of your damage with the 2 piece, ArmPen may become more effective than haste at a certain point.
However, with a counter-arguement, the more Haste, the more white swings, and the more chances you have to proc the 2 piece.
But to answer your question, ArmPen is NEVER better than Strength for a ret pally. However, for classes like arms warriors, combat rogues, feral druids, and marks hunters, gemming ArmPen over agility or strength
is
acceptable, but may not always be optimal, depending on your gear level.
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