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Post by
skribs
Well, currently (excepting druids) it's gear anyway, so a Ret pally can throw on defense or resilience gear (my friend tanks heroics in his PvP ret set) and tank anyway. The difference isn't simply hitting the defense cap - a warrior could do that with just armor and DW or 2H tank. Just because you're uncrittable doesn't mean you also keep the damage reduction and threat generation from the other tree.
For example, a Ret Paladin will miss out on Holy Shield (30% block and a lot of threat generated on block), Hammer of the Righteous (powerful with a 1H, which is required with a shield) and will also miss out on the 16% stam and other various defensive talents. Missing a shield will drop about 40% of your armor, which is very valuable. So I'd say this is what would stop those - the trees will not support it.
That said, I believe crit immunity will be mid-tier in the trees for warriors and paladins, and low-tier for DKs; as the current design is prot = tank, but DKs can tank in all 3 (granted, unholy is behind the others, but that's a flaw in balance and not necessarily by design).
Post by
Sakkura
I do, however, shudder at the thought of an actual Boomkin tank.
The mastery bonuses from putting points in the balance tree would benefit spellcasting, not tanking. So talent trees not meant for tanking will continue to be subpar for it.
Post by
chase123
The new def rating talents will only make you uncritable(in PVE), you will still need the tank talents in the respective tanking trees if you want to be a viable tank.
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Adamsm
I think I read somewhere that Defense rating would be a passive bonus from the prot/feral trees?
Lol, so like it was before Blizzard in their grand design, turned anticaption into 5% dodge instead of 20 D-rating points?
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skribs
Not exactly Adamsm. They're going from +20 def to -6% chance to be crit.
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Adamsm
Not exactly Adamsm. They're going from +20 def to -6% chance to be crit.
Uh, it's currently 5% to dodge... because they changed that talent, they screwed over so many tanks who were just skirting the D-Cap; I'm hoping that we'll get something like that back for Cata.
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skribs
Dude, have you not read the notes. They're REMOVING DEFENSE and making it all talented.
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Adamsm
The new def rating talents will only make you uncritable(in PVE), you will still need the tank talents in the respective tanking trees if you want to be a viable tank.
Dude, have you not read the notes. They're REMOVING DEFENSE and making it all talented.
I get that... I'm just saying, I'm hoping for talents equal to the original Anticipation.
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