This site makes extensive use of JavaScript.
Please enable JavaScript in your browser.
Live
PTR
10.2.7
PTR
10.2.6
Beta
AoE leveling
Post Reply
Return to board index
Post by
189938
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
176080
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
189938
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
kopla
I personally would not go out of my way just to AoE grind,
Personally i liked questing and when there was a chance at an AoE fest of quest mobs i did it, get the quest done and have fun AoE'ing also if u only need 1 mob for a quest to be complete still pull 5-6 just for that easy exp, but i found this way better then just doing quests/AoE, this method got my mage from 70-80 in 5 days, Also generally when i see one or 2 ranged mobs in a group i will aggro the melee and freeze them ontop of the caster so they all get affected by blizzard
Post by
200565
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
abcdefg
Against ranged mobs: don't AoE
Against melee mobs: AoEing is fine
Against 1 caster and rest melee: Counterspell (once you reach that lvl-24) and then AoE.
Honestly, though, you probably don't want to start AoE grinding or questing using AoE until around 30, so you have ice block (glyphed gives you a new frost nova), Cone of Cold (26), and Shatter crits (25-29 talents). At 34 you get mage armor for less downtime.
SO:
AoE grinding works best on melee mobs.
If you can AoE to grind quests, great! (Raptors in STV for instance)
AoE grinding it seems is usually not quest related, but just killing lots in short amounts of time.
Single-target specs can also AoE well when fighting melee mobs, so I would go with single-target if you are questing areas with potential ranged mobs, and AoE all those melee groups.
Just pick one and go with it.
Post by
Jacmac
With the Water Elemental pet and Glyph of Eternal Water, you can AoE with 1 or 2 ranged mobs in the group just fine. However, you don't get the pet until 50 and AoE is a total waste of time before level 40. AoE and questing are generally mutually exclusive. Sometimes a quest comes along where AoE happens to work out. AoE grinding can be fun for awhile as a break or if you're farming stuff.
Post by
Psynister
I have two level 80 mages, both of which I leveled almost exclusively through AoE grinding along with questing.
To give an actual answer the questions being presented:
Wouldnt AoE leveling suck?
No, AoE leveling is incredibly fast, especially if you use it while combining both the grinding aspect and the questing aspect into one.
I mean a lot of mobs have ranged attacks so it would take so much work out of an AoE spec compared to a non-AoE spec to take it out. So wouldnt questing with an AoE spec be awful?
This is a question that wasn't thought through very well before being asked. When you're fighting ranged mobs you do this thing called "using your brain" in which you stop AoE and single target the ranged mobs while you quest. You do that by repeatedly mashing the key you have bound to the Frostbolt spell until the thing dies. Everything that's in the AoE spec benefits a single target spec as well with the sole exception of Improved Blizzard for obvious reasons.
Or am I missing the point of AoE specs? To just constantly grind 10 mobs at once instead of questing?
People are constantly missing the point. It's not a black and white either you AoE or you don't, it's a combination of the two where you use your greatest strengths for whatever situation you have at hand. Take a look at what northstate said up above you never ever spec into the talent that gives your chill effects a chance to freeze your targets He's wrong, plain and simple. As I said, I have two mages that are level 80, both of whom leveled the entire way with 3/3 Frostbite which is the talent that can freeze with your chill effects. You use it for AoE as well as single targets. If you can't handle a situation that didn't go perfectly, then you don't know how to play a mage.
If you want to learn about using AoE for leveling purposes then I will point you towards my blog which discusses all of this:
Psynister's Notebook
. Scroll down to the section on mages and you'll get my notes on the various level ranges and a post entirely about AoE grinding.
Post by
129816
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Jacmac
I have two level 80 mages, both of which I leveled almost exclusively through AoE grinding
If you want to learn about using AoE for leveling purposes then I will point you towards my blog which discusses all of this: Psynister's Notebook. Scroll down to the section on mages and you'll get my notes on the various level ranges and a post entirely about AoE grinding.
I read through your guide on AoE grinding; although you showed how to do it, you didn't show where you did various levels, how long it took, or what kind of gear you were using at the various levels. Somebody using heirloom gear and whatever good gear can be bought, (possibly) can skip right past questing and simply AoE grind away from 20+. I'm not sure that's true, but I would love a crack at trying with a geared up level 25 mage.
Many times during levels 26-29, I tried Hillsbrad Farm (I also tried several talent specs). Basically a straight forward roundup, Frost Nova, Blink, and hit them with Blizzard a couple of times. At 29 the mobs are 3-4 levels lower than me, it ought to be easy. Sometimes I killed them, sometimes I got away alive, and sometimes I died. My gear was a joke, mana pool low, and my damage output was marginal. In the end, I simply gave up AoE out of frustration until I got Ice Barrier.
So can it be done? Sure, with the right spec and stats. Is it worth it? I really only thought AoE grinding was truely worth doing starting in the mid 50s. Especially at 58 or so, go to Outlands and AoE grinding is easy, with good exp. Others might feel like it's worth doing in the 40s, but before that I can't imagine why anyone would feel like it was better than questing. I honestly wish that it was better than questing because I hated leveling 25-40.
Post by
129816
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Jacmac
I read all that, watched videos, tried several areas; it didn't help me for leveing 25-40. But this is my first character, so I had no good gear at all.
Post by
129816
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Jacmac
500 gold a day does sound good. I've gotten lucky with a few buy and sell items where someone obviously meant to sell something for 10 gold and put it in for 10 silver, etc.
Post Reply
You are not logged in. Please
log in
to post a reply or
register
if you don't already have an account.