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Is my dps that bad? was told it was
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dhampir1989
Single target sustained damage?
Total Damage including trash?
Only AoE damage?
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OscarDivine
just as a quick note: As shadow in heroics, you require ZERO Hit rating to have 100% hit, especially if you're draenei. You get everything you need from talents.
2nd quick note: don't listen to the tank.
Your SP is a little low, you should work on getting that up.
edit: Multi-dotting is good. Try to cast VT+SWP on at least two or three targets to help soften up extra mobs.
Post by
Erethzium
3k DPS is not "sucky" for a heroic. The tank must have been stoned.
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dhampir1989
3k DPS is not "sucky" for a heroic. The tank must have been stoned.
or thought it required a GS of 9865527803.
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cohut
The lfgsystem is supposed to pair you with people of the same gearlvl as you. If the tank is good geared anything below 5k dps is frustrating to be with tbh. Same goes for healer. Doing random heroics on my priest im having a grindingspec on dualspec, which im using for daily hc and repgrinding(mainly some cool glyphs like Holy Nova and Smite:p). I do 2k++(depending on instance and tank - 2k is the lowest i have been) when im healing in heroics and having dps being below me is .. well.. it's simply sad. Having people using dots low on dps, however, i think is okay. I mean, its #$%^hard to do damage when your dots only tick 1 time before the mob dies... But they still shouldnt be below me:k 3k+ should be fine with whoever tbh. - maybe your tank was just having a bad day:)
as a preference i like to have my tank at 3k+ and all dps at 6-7k+ :k
Post by
bwirum
From a tanks perspective:
(last time I did h UP was with 4 ppl with GS 5,6k, all from one guild, and strange enough all from my realm...) that makes me struggle for every single mob to sit on me.
Mmmm... I had a group like that earlier in FoS. 4 people with 5.4 - 5.6k GS, myself sitting at around 4.3k then. I think I lost aggro three, maybe four times during the whole run, but that was just because one of the dpsers (fury warr) made a sport out of pulling one of the non-main targets off of me. Was my toughest tanktest to date, and I was pretty proud that I pulled it off so well :-)
Usually though, if I get even one of the dps'ers above 3k in a LFD heroic.... I'm very happy.
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OscarDivine
you kidding Iskurion? I do more damage in heroics than most warriors or ret pallies can even dream of doing especially if there are multiple mobs to DoT + Mind Sear. On the heroic bosses, I've been able to hit 5.5k DPS lately without much problem.
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SlowSide
The OP was the whole instance including trash. I normally pull 3500ish, on bosses 4700ish. My Ret pally can do 5k with ease on trash as long as it dies withing 15 seconds or so, and for many heroics that's pretty normal. When fights last longer my DPS drops as ret, on boss fights I normally only do about 4000.
I have found multi DoTing can be a waste of time if you have good AoE DPSers. Esp as pull sizes rise to 5+ mobs. By the time you try to DoT all of them they should be dead. If there are more than 3 I have resorted to just spamming Mind Sear as I don't typically have time to DoT them all up before they start dieing. This is with good groups, fail groups are totally different.
The first couple pulls you should be able to tell if thigs will live long enough to DoT & Blast, or if things will drop like flies & you should just Blast away.
Post by
ande9249
yeah, personal experience would say something like this
1/boss - the official rotation and start
2/3 - multidot and on last one start MBing or flaying, tempting to fully rotate on one and then switch, but you will be alot better off dotting one and the going to town on the other.
4- the awkward inbetween of multidot and mind sear, saddly the exact number in the "elite" groups in VH
5+ mind sear will actually out dps almost anybody else AoE dps saddly this does not happen often enough..... or if it does, the mobs are so small that the 1 sec or so of chanelling require for mind sear is too slow when compared to other AoE
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