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[3.3.3] Unholy PVE DPS - 24/03
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Did TotC 25 and ICC 10 (first two bosses) last night, and I never had a problem with GoD not refreshing diseases, or diseases dropping off besides me not keeping my rotation tight enough. I really hate the nerf though...I enjoyed seeing the 12k crits from SS.
12k? what about the 16ks i was critting?
and then it suddenly drops to like 5k?
D:
wtf?
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dervasavred
I enjoyed seeing the 12k crits from SS.
12k was low. I scored a 25k on Marrowgar on Wednesday. I was pretty pumped.
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Fyuu
why fail? i was doing 4.5k with blood and worse gear
You're missing the point. Unholy, overall, was significantly buffed in 3.3 versus 3.2.2, regardless of the current nerf. So, how exactly does that make it, "dead", if it's still stronger overall than it was before? The reason your DPS was lower is because you either have subpar gear for the spec or don't know what the hell you're doing. The dummy is also a very bad test of Unholy DPS potential.
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: I am also curious if this SS nerf, closing the rather sizeable gap between 2H and the old DW specs, will make DW a viable alternative again. Not that I care; DW all the way for me, baby!
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neomasterc
You're missing the point. Unholy, overall, was significantly buffed in 3.3 versus 3.2.2, regardless of the current nerf. So, how exactly does that make it, "dead", if it's still stronger overall than it was before?
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: I am also curious if this SS nerf, closing the rather sizeable gap between 2H and the old DW specs, will make DW a viable alternative again. Not that I care; DW all the way for me, baby!
Its arguable if its overall stronger than before.
So far in raids I've seen no large change in single target and a nerf for AoE. This is results from both in raid and on dummies. On deathbringer I do about 7.8k dps and on gormok (in 3.2.2) I do about 8k. I compare these two fights because they are very similar in the sense that DPS does not have to move much.
Also, on dummies (Inaccurate but still), my dps remains at ~5k on heroic dummy in ebon hold (So no AoE).
I think EJ stated that DW is still not viable, but I'm not sure.
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Fyuu
I think EJ stated that DW is still not viable, but I'm not sure.
They said that DW is not
competitive
; of course it's still viable because DW DPS didn't actually go down with the patch. The issue was that with the SS buff originally, 2H specs pulled far and away from the DW way of balancing out with increased white dmg.
Now that SS has again been nerfed to what some are referring as 3.2.2 levels, my curiosity has peaked over whether DW will again be in the competitive meta, which I would like it to be.
Part of the issue is DW's reliance on talents like Necrosis and Black Ice to function however, whereas the current meta pushes a Blood subtree, sometimes at the expense of talents like these. I keep hearing (2H) Necrosis wins out for single-target, but not for AoE, so I suspect there's a lot of testing and theory to be still sifted through for a concrete answer to emerge.
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I keep hearing (2H) Necrosis wins out for single-target, but not for AoE, so I suspect there's a lot of testing and theory to be still sifted through for a concrete answer to emerge.
Necrosis probably does win out for single target and lose for AoE. However, I believe that people should take 3/3 morbidity anyways, simply because the vast majority of fights in ICC requires some form of AoE.
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Kyura
So let me get this straight. Is Unholy DPS better than before? And is it better than Blood?
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dervasavred
You sir, need to review the change to
Glyph of IT
.
That's not the only thing he needs to review, either. He doesn't use Blood Tap for anything at all? Umm.....
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