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Lady Proudmoore - Delusional or intuitive?
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Again, Proudmoore is doing the best she can with the hand she was dealt; between her father's pigheaded assault, the fact that the humans of the Eastern Kingdoms don't seem to care about the city of Theramore, and the Night Elf social awkardness, she really is in a corner.
Think about it; in Dustwallow she has the Black Flight, the Goblins of Mudsprocket and the Ogre-Horde town keeping her from the center of the continent. To the North and East is the Barrens, Mulgore and Durotar, to the south is Thousand Needles and Tanaris and it's open sea to the west. She is literally surronded on all sides, and if she didn't keep it neutral between the Horde and the Alliance forces, she could easily be crushed before the Eastern Kingdom humans arrive to "help", and their help would probably be marshal law to keep the "peace".
There are already Theramore citizens who are unhappy with her non-agressive stance towards the Horde. An actual break with the Alliance would be the last straw. (I mean, those traitorous guards aren't immediately reported by their fellow guards and citizens; that's why you're assigned to discredit them. Some people are listening to them.)Of course most of those are Daelin Supporter's as opposed to actual Alliance members so.....
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The only way Varian would be able to gain support to assault Theramore would be to declare Theramore's citizens traitors to the Alliance. But I doubt that the whole Alliance would accompany him. At best Stormwind.Wouldn't this in itself just divide the whole Alliance, and possibly end it? The Night Elves fought alongside Theramore Humans, not Stormwind ones. They are probably much more loyal to Jaina than Varian. The Draenei want peace, and a unified force for the Naaru's Army of the Light presumably, and would agree with Jaina most likely. It would be like Garrosh and Thrall's supporters, but officially divided.
Garrosh's Horde, on the other hand may force Jaina to declare war on the orcs.
Well, he'd have to do a lot first.
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Garrosh's orcs then.
If Garrosh supporters assault Theramore (or surrounding areas) and if Garrosh play the right cards...(Garrosh: YEAS THATS WAR / Advisors: /facepalm) that would be a good argument for Varian. So that the King can bring Theramore's population to his side.
Wouldn't this in itself just divide the whole Alliance, and possibly end it? The Night Elves fought alongside Theramore Humans, not Stormwind ones. They are probably much more loyal to Jaina than Varian. The Draenei want peace, and a unified force for the Naaru's Army of the Light presumably, and would agree with Jaina most likely. It would be like Garrosh and Thrall's supporters, but officially divided.
Pretty much. Varian has been acting as the King of the Alliance lately, which is terrible. If he issue a call to arms, without the eastern alliance's consent (which he may get, or not. The night elves themselves are divided between supremacists, anti-hordes - I believe thats limited to parts of the Sentinel Army - and Tyrande's loyalists. Although that should end with Malfurion's
"wth you're back NOW?"
return).
Interesting....Kalimdor is Western Alliance. :)
What I find funny is that apparently, according to an outdated source, Jaina is the closest thing to a leader that the Alliance as a whole, has. Then Varian comes along and tries pushing her out the way so he can wipe out the Orcs.
If I was Tyrande, I'd just shoot Varian up the arse.
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I think Jaina does the diplomacy that keeps the Alliance together, while Varian plans campaigns. She deals with internal politics, he deals with threats from outside (war being politics continued by other means). I don't think Jaina even wants to be the one who says "Now we go to war." She can better fill her role as a peacemaker when she is allowed to see everything in that perspective.
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