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Cataclysm: Death to the Lore?
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Post by
sasexw
I belive for first time that blizzard isn't screwing lore.They added the things right , as they should.Now for the shaman dwarfs that's an other story,but i still don't think it destroys lore,more like evolves it, and i am a lore fanatic.
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that blizzard will allow worgens to become druids , but not paladins..
This is something like Worgen + Druid = ?
I mean worgens already transfom from human to half "wolf" half human,worgen druids will gain +1 form from other ones ^^
Post by
Crimor
Ok, let me give you a RL example of what just happened in the game (next expansion)
You live in California, your used to going to work, coming home to a wife and kids, having a hot meal, sleeping under a nice roof. Your a fairly liberal person, shunning guns and bullets and love peace.
Next thing you know, Russia launches nukes everywhere, destroying most life on Earth, cities and all including your town. You can't get food for your family because it's scarce, gangs control the city, gas, food, commodities. Well you gonna sit back and let your family starve? No, your going to ADAPT to the NEW ENVIRONMENT.
You'll probably grab a gun for protection, something you hated but know is necessary to live now. Your going to do things you wouldn't normally do to stay alive.
When the world changes, people do too, whether it's virtual or real, it's common sense. And common sense is just as important in Lore as history, locations etc.
Change it to China and we have the Fallout universe :P
I belive for first time that blizzard isn't screwing lore.They added the things right , as they should.Now for the shaman dwarfs that's an other story,but i still don't think it destroys lore,more like evolves it, and i am a lore fanatic.
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that blizzard will allow worgens to become druids , but not paladins..
This is something like Worgen + Druid = ?
I mean worgens already transfom from human to half "wolf" half human,worgen druids will gain +1 form from other ones ^^
There exists dorf shamans, L2Lore
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Post by
Kristopher
The Cataclysm is a WTF THE WORLD IS ENDING moment. As Moifern explained, you wouldn't sit there when your world is being decimated, would you?
If arcane power is all you can use to help with the cause, you aren't going to shun it, are you?
Same goes for Tauren Paladins, if the Light is all that you can hope to use to overcome this challenge, go for it.
As for Troll Druids, why not? They are very much in tune with nature, I'm surprised they aren't druids yet.
Dwarf Shamans, pretty much the same as Troll Druids. For role-playing reasons, I would think one who can commune with the spirits of the earth would have a distinct advantage in stone-working and metalworking.
Worgen Druids, they have adapted to their lifestyle, and I believe they are close allies with Night Elves. Plus, maybe the lycanthropy was a test given by Elune, and they passed it, and she shared the teachings of Druidism with them.
As Blizzard said in the trailer, with all the destruction going around, people will be taking new paths to aid in the battle.
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Post by
executorvgk
about the terrain changes and that
So when Archimonde was about to destroy the World Tree, and the Burning Legion was invading, that wasn't a threat to Azeroth?
3 words: the EARTH warder
I always wondered what exactly an earth warder does now I kind of get it more
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
this @#$% started when an undead healed by a paladin... and now tauren paladin... this is the end of the world...... of warcraft for me
kbai!
Seriously, if you don't want to play anymore no need to announce it to the world. That someone can become a Tauren Pally in no way affects my game, so I see no reason to get uptight about it.
Post by
executorvgk
to all those who say lore is being killed you couldn't be more wrong. So if it's not in WC WC2 or WC3 RTS games it's not lore?
look the very world is being torn asunder in the cataclysm. The extent of the damage is only really comparable with
one
event in the history of the world.
sure it isn't as bad as the sundering but it's still horrible
about certain class/race combos breaking lore all I can say is that's a pathetic excuse.
Do all americans belive in the same things did 100% of the USA vote for Obama? no
so why must all Night elves and Tauren etc belive the same things the highborne used magic so NE's are capable of
drastic times call for drastic measures
as the trailer said they must find new paths for survival or somethin like that. It is a battle not for who is better Horde or Alliance. even in WOTLK with fighting the lich king we had the forces the men to do skirmishes here and there we could spare men to go to wG to open a portal to fight archavon. now we go to combat in hopes of getting supplies
Now teh recources we have are diminished greatly and to add to that thousands of building etc are probably damaged by the cataclym so there goes our factions surplus of supplies.
turning to NE'ves using magic and other examples is an act of desperation in an attempt to survive as individuals and as a faction and as a whole.
everything I said seems logical and a good reason why some of the things happening are justified
if you still don't think it's lore go tell blizz to make all of this into an RTS game then it'll be lore right?
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Post by
Thanodius
To those whining about "The Night Elves would never allow mages! Lore is dead!": guess who's standing about 10 feet away from Tyrande in Darnassus -
a Draenei mage trainer
.
Maybe 2 years of dealing with the Draenei has changed their perception that arcane magic use = sure-fire demonic corruption.
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Post by
hashmel
dwarfs get shaman because dwarfs are earthen and reside mostly in mines and the depths thus they're closer to nature and the elements than many others, i could stand next to a shaman all day long but that doesn't make me a shaman too so how does vicinity justify night elves being shaman over anyone else, especially since shaman tend to harness nature and redirect it, mages tend to bend it to their will, while druids believe in being one with nature.
worgen join the alliance because they were once humans stricken by a curse that turned them into terrible beasts but through some sort of magic were able to hold onto their humanity and resided safely behind the greymane wall for fear of spreading their curse to the outside world. then from what i gather the cataclysm upheaval destroys the wall and the forsaken attack in retaliation of an unfamiliar presence appearing in their lands thus setting the worgen and horde at odds and the night elves come to their aid thus re-solidifying relations with the alliance.
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Post by
mikeron
I'm a big fan of WoW, I played the RTS's and enjoyed those, but not because of the game play, but the Lore, WoW has such in depth amazing Lore I could spend days reading it all if, it was in one huge monstrous book.
So why have Blizzard burnt their lore book? Night Elves are meant to hate magic, it almost destroyed Azeroth, and their race when they used it last. They sent the High Borne aka Blood Elves into exile, it created the Naga whom now work constantly to bring the Night Elves down. Blizzard created huge amount of Lore around how Night Elves hated all things magical and now they seem to be destroying that. I've looked over the cataclysm pages and found nothing in way of explanation. Okay not true I heard in the trailer "The races have found new ways to help their survival."
The Night Elves have already defied their better judgment by planting Teldrassil, and they seem to have a penchant for some Azeroth-shattering "oops" moments.
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