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What do people think of atheists?
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Post by
blademeld
when people believe their god is telling them to do bad things that you run into issues.
Hitler.
Post by
ASHelmy
You didn't specify.
Also, say that evolution is 1 + 1 = 2 in the real numbers, why can't I say that there are a wider set of numbers including the set of complex numbers as a reference to the supernatural and hence, even though in perception 1 + 1 = 2, in all reality, 1 + 1 = any number I please?
Well, I will think on that mate. Anyway, I have to go for ~3 hours, cya later mate.
Post by
Skreeran
If
there is no god (for the sake of argument), would being a good person matter?
I do not believe so.
if god is the only reason for someone to be a good person, then i think they need help.What reason do I have then to be a good person? If you can get away with something, why not?
Post by
Arcage
in saying "get away with something" it's clear you feel there is something wrong with it, or you wouldnt feel there is anything to get away with.
This alone should be enough reason not to do it.
Think about it.
Post by
Haxzor
If
there is no god (for the sake of argument), would being a good person matter?
I do not believe so.
if god is the only reason for someone to be a good person, then i think they need help.What reason do I have then to be a good person? If you can get away with something, why not?
So you be an ass for the sake of it? I can see why you quoted yourself in your sig
Post by
blademeld
Well, I will think on that mate. Anyway, I have to go for ~3 hours, cya later mate.
Here's a feasible solution: attach the word "science" or "my" into your facts
Example: evolution is a scientific fact
Post by
TheMediator
in saying "get away with something" it's clear you feel there is something wrong with it, or you wouldnt feel there is anything to get away with.
This alone should be enough reason not to do it.
Think about it.
QFT. There's a reason guilt exists, is because even when you rely solely on self-imposed morals, you sometimes feel like you broke your own code.
Post by
Skreeran
in saying "get away with something" it's clear you feel there is something wrong with it, or you wouldnt feel there is anything to get away with.
This alone should be enough reason not to do it.
Think about it.No. I mean if I kill someone and I am not arrested, that can be considered "getting away with it." It doesn't mean I see it as wrong. Without a god to say killing is wrong, why would it be? We're all dead anyway.
So you be an ass for the sake of it? I can see why you quoted yourself in your sigIf something benefits me in some way, and the benefits outweigh the potential consequences, why should I not do something?
Post by
Haxzor
To kill someone in order to gain 10 million dollars. You would do it?
Post by
blademeld
If you're all dead anyways, there's nothing much to benefit the dead.
Post by
TheMediator
To kill someone in order to gain 10 million dollars. You would do it?
Depends who it is, where the money is coming from, etc. etc.
No. I mean if I kill someone and I am not arrested, that can be considered "getting away with it." It doesn't mean I see it as wrong. Without a god to say killing is wrong, why would it be? We're all dead anyway.
If you don't feel what it would do to the family of the person you're killing, you would probably be a psychopath, and belong in a mental hospital.
Post by
Skreeran
To kill someone in order to gain 10 million dollars. You would do it?Yes. If I was sure that I would not be punished.
If you're all dead anyways, there's nothing much to benefit the dead.Yes, I've wrestled with this idea for some time now. What's the point of living if you're going to lose it all anyway. So I've come to the tentative conclusion of "make me feel good until I die." Selfish, I know.
Post by
Haxzor
You people are horrid
Post by
Skreeran
You people are horridYes, I know. I don't much care.
Post by
blademeld
I don't think they're that bad, for 10 million dollars, you wouldn't mind being the state proclaimed executioner of the murderer of your entire extended and close family, would you?
Post by
blademeld
To kill someone in order to gain 10 million dollars. You would do it?Yes. If I was sure that I would not be punished.
Wait, according to your logic, wouldn't you do the killing for a dollar if you wouldn't be punished?
Post by
TheMediator
You people are horrid
You seriously wouldn't bury an old lonely scrooge-like man's face in a pillow to better the lives of many more people?
Post by
Skreeran
Wait, according to your logic, wouldn't you do the killing for a dollar if you wouldn't be punished?Technically, yes, but there would be a lot more risk involved. To avoid punishment for murder, one can't just simply kill someone. There would have to be a lot of planning involved, and why do that work when I can get a dollar so much more easily? If I was on a desert island with the person, they could serve more use for me alive than dead. But I digress...
Post by
Haxzor
You people are horrid
You seriously wouldn't bury an old lonely scrooge-like man's face in a pillow to better the lives of many more people?
I never said anything about benefit
Post by
TheMediator
You people are horrid
You seriously wouldn't bury an old lonely scrooge-like man's face in a pillow to better the lives of many more people?
I never said anything about benefit
10 million dollars could help a lot of people.
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