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Should Cocaine Be Legal?
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Post by
MyTie
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
Taking away cocaine = impossible
Post by
TheMediator
For the record... I haven't yet heard any well thought out arguements against the legalization of cocaine.
The worst kind of blindman is he who refuses to see. You do this very often, simply locking yourself from any input is not a good stance to take.
I agree 100% with this, I agree for the most part with MyTie's view on it, maybe not the laws but the general view. I think he's too narrow-minded to see the opposing arguments that are actually holding up rather well.
Its brilliant if you think about it. He refuses to admit defeat, even when he's a bloody mangled corpse, and then when the other side leaves after having beat his dead body for a solid amount of time, he rises from the grave and declares himself the victor.
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120885
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Post by
Laihendi
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
Taking away cocaine = impossible
Making it legal would only make it more common.
Post by
MyTie
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
Taking away cocaine = impossible
Making it legal would only make it more common.
Making it unregulated and legal would do that, I agree. I'm all for regulation though.... I don't think you read this thread in its entirety yet... that's ok though... I'll go back through it with you. Very interesting subject. Perhaps you can propose something I hadn't thought of.
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120885
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Post by
Laihendi
Making it more easier to obtain doesn't mean that more people are going to buy it, or just to try it out for kicks.
But it means that those who would be inclined/tempted to try it would do so without hesitation.
Post by
TheMediator
decreasing the amount of cocaine flowing around in the society will increase the demand
False. Bad understanding of economics. It doesn't increase the overall demand, its just that those who are highly interested in the product will pay a higher price when there's smaller market. A much higher percent of the population drinks now than did during prohibition.
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MyTie
Were your penalties for people that were under the influence, or in general?
Your legalizing idea might well take care of some of the black market drugs and gangs, but do you honestly think that it would destroy the trade all together? I think, honestly, that it would just shift the trade to a whole different country. How well would other countries like the US then? Regardless if there were legalization or not, there will still be someone trying to undercut what the "going rate" is. Kinda like doing business in the AH. The number of distributers would most likely be less, but I think that they would still be there. Then their focus group would change and I think a lot more kids would then be the new target group.
That is why strict laws of exile would be needed for drug enforcers. My idea would not work without strictly adhered to drug laws.
Public intoxication is already a crime.
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MyTie
My main idea is:
If you want to do drugs and destroy your life, fine. However, be prepared to do it on the community's terms, and pay the community a chunk in taxes.
The secondary idea is:
A lack of enforcment of the community's drug policies will end up in the system's collapse.
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MyTie
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
People who want cocaine will find ways of getting it, whether or not it's legal. The point of making it legal is you have less people in jail for non-violent crimes and it can be regulated. It's a safe way to traffic drugs when you have the gov't doing it, opposed to the underground market that cut it with tons of other substances. The gov't can also tax people for the cocaine and actually make money from it rather than give it to petty dealers.
This summarizes it nicely.
Post by
TheReal
Great topic.
Marijuana legalization has definite benefits for the economy, but that's only if it remains illegal to grow it. Growing pot should require an expensive license much like selling alcohol.
Cocaine is another matter. It is much more harmful to those who use it over those who use pot. I've done both, and honestly liked pot much more. Cocaine is too damned expensive when you compare the cost to buzz ratio. Should it be legal? I honestly don't see how it could ever be worse than allowing the sale of alcohol. We know it's bad for us, but if we choose to do it then we assume risks.
Heroin is another matter entirely. People high on heroin have the potential to be downright dangerous to those around them. NEVER should heroin be legalized, much like alcohol. But of course, that is just my opinion.
Alcohol = Heroin > Cocaine > Tobacco > Marijuana
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Post by
TheMediator
If you take away things like cocaine, then people are less likely to commit crimes. That's a much more efficient way of reducing crime.
People who want cocaine will find ways of getting it, whether or not it's legal. The point of making it legal is you have less people in jail for non-violent crimes and it can be regulated. It's a safe way to traffic drugs when you have the gov't doing it, opposed to the underground market that cut it with tons of other substances. The gov't can also tax people for the cocaine and actually make money from it rather than give it to petty dealers.
An extra $77 billion a year can only help the current state of society.
Yes, people who are crack addicts will get their crack... but with less crack available, LESS PEOPLE WILL BECOME CRACK ADDICTS, and that is the main point. We don't want more crack addicts running around.
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260787
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Post by
Laihendi
My main idea is:
If you want to do drugs and destroy your life, fine. However, be prepared to do it on the community's terms, and pay the community a chunk in taxes.
The secondary idea is:
A lack of enforcment of the community's drug policies will end up in the system's collapse.
Using those kinds of drugs destroys the lives of others as well. What if two parents get divorced, the dad gets custody of the kids, goes through hard times, and becomes a crack addict? The children shouldn't be exposed to that, but the mother can't sue for custody because what he's doing is legal.
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