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[3.1.2 ptr] FnB - the change we've been looking for?
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Post by
Kangi
Yay hope this patch takes a loonnng time to hit.
A huge buff to Dest, my favorite spec, in PvE, causing it to be one of the highest dps specs for warlocks? I hope it comes next Tuesday.
Post by
Maxlock
a huge buff?
it's more like a band aid buff to a gut wound nerf that is Conflagrate.
why don't they just prevent us from PvPing, i mean you click "join battle" and you get a message:
"Sorry your request has been denied due to your class being useless, but you can try our lovely heroics in the meantime"
"P.S please don't file a ticket, we can tell you from now that everything is working as intended"
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Post by
asakawa
that change was only on the ptr for a few days.
the conflag glyph reverted to the description we see on live with:
Conflagrate -- We still intend to leave this as it currently works on live (not consuming the Immolate).
to confirm.
Post by
Kangi
QQ QQ QQ we're nerfed to the ground QQ QQ QQ Blizzard hates us QQ QQ QQ QQ
This is what I read.
Why do people constantly complain about Conflagrate's nerf after it's overpowered state at the beginning of 3.1? It still does far more damage than before, and we've been given many things that increase our PvP viability. Conflagrate isn't our only source of damage.
Post by
asakawa
yeah, i agree. we had a thread about the hot fix which nerfed conflag. that had some QQ in it but not much - most agreed that it had been a bit OP and were just annoyed at the hotfix after 36 hours.
i hoped this thread would be free from that sort of thing and just be an interesting discussion about the pros and cons of the most recent changes.
Post by
Future6602
I think they're just nerfing Desto DPS to allow a more flexible approach to what a warlock wants to spec for raids.
I prefer affliction, but to do good dps you HAD to be destruction, not anymore :)
The Conflagrate Glyph change just fails though. My main use for that was probably the daze effect in pvp, now i cant use it without having to re-apply immolate. /cry
Post by
asakawa
/sigh
destro dps is top on the ptr and that conflag glyph change has been reverted.
...just four posts up!
Post by
Razmortis
Can't wait for the next patch. I wanna try to be deep destro, and not 0/40/31 any longer. I never liked hybrids.
Post by
Ragingtiger
Can't wait for the next patch. I wanna try to be deep destro, and not 0/40/31 any longer. I never liked hybrids.
^^ that.
The only thing I hate is that when they try to buff PvE, or nerf PvE, pvp suffers. I always thought that if there was seperate PvP trees and PvE trees, then the game would be awesome, no pvp QQ, no pve QQ.
For example, nerfing conflag from it's old OPness, it gave us good pve dps that was well needed for destro to be on par with aff. It was nerfed for the sake of pvp.
That's the only thing I dislike about the talent tree system.
Post by
Maxlock
QQ QQ QQ we're nerfed to the ground QQ QQ QQ Blizzard hates us QQ QQ QQ QQ
This is what I read.
Why do people constantly complain about Conflagrate's nerf after it's overpowered state at the beginning of 3.1? It still does far more damage than before, and we've been given many things that increase our PvP viability. Conflagrate isn't our only source of damage.
i never said anything about the conflag nerf in my post, i just stated that the changes they're doing now are reactions to the conflag hotfix, and if you read my post correctly i was mostly QQing about the nether protection nerf. which was actually posted by you
How about adding this?
Nether Protection - Now reduces all damage by that spell school by 30% for 8 sec. Down from 60%.
They just want us dead in PvP.
P.S: you might wanna use a couple of those QQs in your post as glasses.
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255906
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Post by
ballagarba
Glyph of Conflagrate redesigned: When you use Conflagrate, the damage done by your next 3 destruction spells is increased by 10% for 15 seconds if the Immolate on the target has 5 or fewer seconds remaining.
(Even if this change is still in the official notes, it was reverted in an earlier PTR version and this might be a small mistake in the official note update. In the latest PTR build the glyph is: Your Conflagrate spell no longer consumes your Immolate or Shadowflame spell from the target.)
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255906
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Post by
ballagarba
Hehe yeah I hope I'm right too, that change is NOT very appealing. Maybe if they skipped the 5s part or something.
Post by
asakawa
well, i'm not on the ptr currently (i usually do but i've not been so inspired to test these changes) so i can't check to be sure but there was an extensive discussion on the official forum which ended with GC announcing the roll back on the glyph change. if they went back to the originally proposed glyph i think there would be a mini uproar and we would've heard about it.
for now, whatever the patch notes say, i think we are safe to assume that the conflag glyph will stay as live unless we hear something new from a blue.
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Post by
Kangi
i never said anything about the conflag nerf in my post
a gut wound nerf that is Conflagrate.
I'd say you did say something about Conflagrate in your post.
And I hope you didn't take "They just want us dead in PvP" too seriously, I was mostly joking because of the people overly-complaining earlier on in the thread about our PvP viability. Nether Protection needed a bit of a nerf, taking on three casters by yourself was a bit overpowered.you might wanna use a couple of those QQs in your post as glasses. And I do have glasses, tyvm.
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