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Hurono
ITT: Hate and Hunters Man, that ITT nonsense is my trademark on these forums. Go back to that facepalm of yours, this thread could really use it.
ITT: Players of an OP class complaining they got nerfed.
That's how it's done!
And here you are sitting in a place that's not your home.
Leave the thread, seriously, because you don't know how it is on us to live AND do good damage. I'll tell you now, it's not easy anymore with Chains of Ice and HoJ left and right. Oh! FD you say? They press tab and they're back on you! Let alone target last target (G I believe?) and AoE's.
Sure as BM I can use BW, but that only gets me immune to CC for 18 seconds. Death Grip time! Besides, BM does
no where near
as much damage as SV, nor do we get CC abilities. Whoever can't take a BM Hunter their own level flat out fails. Wonder why? BM is an easy kill compared to the other specs. The only tool we get that helps for a second is well timed Disengage-ing, and can only serve it's use FULLY after Master's Call is on CD to avoid snares before and after we use Disengage.
Open, really, I just think you and other QQ WEAK CLASS BEAT ME I CAN'T PLAY people should leave the thread, because the only spec that SHOULD give you issues is SV, and even that is going down the drain.That's right, tab works on FD.
18 seconds of CC immunity is not insignificant in any way, shape or form. No wonder Divine Shield sucks so much.
That's right, it's not like Intimidate and Traps can't be used by BM Hunters. Oh right, Pin doesn't exist either. BW is a horrible way to escape from a class that relies on SNARES to stay close to you. Not like that pet hitting for 1k hits isn't fair or anything. What am I thinking?
If you think SV was fine, you are just plain retarded, or you're biased to a hopeless degree.
Oh right, you see all the SV Hunters going "OMG, we didn't need that nerf." That nerf was a good thing. Yes, some nerfs were overkill (viper sting), but TnT stun and the 2-3k ticks of ES needed to go. Period. If a class can make a /castrandom macro and win a fight, a nerf is overdue (DK's, Rets, SV Hunters, Arcane Mages, Resto Druids of TBC)
Yes. Hunters are bad now. If you think they were fine in S5, I won't waste my time arguing with you, because no amount of logic will convince you otherwise.
I didn't say SV was fine, it needed those nerfs badly. But our survivability now is about the same as a level 14 Druid in Feralas. Who uses a crab to PvP at 80? I've seen a single 80 with one. Intimidation is a joke, there's not a class in the game that can't get out of it (The 2 whole seconds of it). As for CC immunity? Big whoop, Death Grip and JoJ solves that. If it weren't for BW, we'd be CoI'd the whole fight.
You said you played a Hunter. If so, get on said Hunter and play around a bit. Just to see how you do in PvP. If they're above 50 and can take DK's without using BW, I'll give you Oreos.
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karlusdavius
im survival, i can take a dk out with BW? can i have oreos?
Survival is a joke at the moment. We got hit by the viper nerf and i struggle to get a healer (disc preists mainly) down even below 50%. We are given a disengage yet so many classes have ways to just negate that instantlty its pointless. TnT nerf was needed yes, but we have so many counter classes against us, without a healer, we fail most of the time.
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Booterang
PS. to snipershotz. . .. if you want to see a joke for pvp design play an enhance shaman.
Enhance shamans have been considered terribad PvP Since early TBC. Seriously, if you think hunters are seriously broken right now, try one to use one of these guys in a burst happy environment. It kinda sucks playing a class whose sole PvP role is healing (elemental shamans are also good to a degree now, but still not on the same level as a destro lock or a mage.)
Yeah I think they went overboard on the hunter nerfs, but frankly anyone who thinks hunters were remotely balanced in S5 has a headscrew loose. They will be buffed next patch, the same way resto druids had to suffer through the entirety of S5 as the least wanted healer.
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Magnerz
Ret's use SoB/SoM in pvp as it gives a much higher damage output than SoC does, and as rets are a class designed primarily around burst damage, you want that burst to be as high as possible.
Oh and a small pnickety thing, They are called "hand of X" now as opposed to "blessing of X" as regards freedom, sacrifice, protection etc.
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Bairforem
Crusader Strike
Divine Storm
Judgement of Justice
Divine Shield
Now, after viewing all these abilities, people say that Paladins are OP because they supposedly "use only four buttons...*
There you go, the four buttons you just listed that you deny of, all a pally needs to face roll a person regarding direct damage. As far as pally goes to warrior, pallies have a LOAD of survival skills in there hands.
Repentance (aka CC)
Hammer of Justice (Stun that puts rogues to shame)
Bubble (numberous kinds useable on both oneself and others)
Sacred Shield (-500 damage)
Blessing of Freedom (aka, lol at trying to slow me)
Lay On Hands (Oh *!@#! Heal)
Ability to self heal in need
Provides rather good buffs
Ability to apply aura depending on situation.
All that combined against a warrior Ret pallies by far are a HORRIBLE class to compare with. It demotes your arguement completely, though in the end you did just explain how pallies rip people, and as such I proved it is only 4 buttons to burn a person done.
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McBad
Idk why everyone is crying about rogues being soooo OP this season, we only got a slight poison damage buff.
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Hurono
@Sederath: Like I said, Hunters are bad right now. I'm not fool enough to deny that, but I disagree with the opinion that they should get Instant Auto Shot and the removal of minimum range.
Well I'm still skeptical about the Auto Shot bit, even I will say that could be a bit much. As for the removal of minimum range? To certain abilities (Concussive Shot, Kill Shot) I really do think that'd be justtified. Much more skeptical towards Concussive, but as for Kill Shot, I really don't see why not, seeing how we get into melee range every time we fight a melee class anymore.
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abulurd
i love all the hunters saying that their getting nerfed, i play a lock, which in the old days was op, now not so much, doesnt mean i personally aren't still good, but hunters have as much damage potentiel as i do, but theirs is a lot more burst, and they wear mail, i wear cloth.
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Hurono
How about not being able to use a regular attack against 50% of the field(Dks, ret pallies, Warriors, rogues, feral druids) due to the fact that they can maintain melee range with hunters indefinitely in our current state.
This part is the biggest problem there is.
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