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Exorcism stealth nerfed 3.1.1
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Post by
Rydiak
No longer able to target players with Exorcism.
Post by
Quest
Why?
Post by
Raleandris
Burst issues probably. Critting 5-6k on top of the already stupid burst pallies have (even with the nerfed seals) was OP. I guess.
Post by
Boeck
Unable to only target players? Or anything not undead? I can't log in now :s It was a handy tool for pulling single mobs when you didn't want AS to be on CD after for the next group. Also wouldn't be that hot for Ret.
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311965
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Post by
Quest
SOmetimes I just want to smack th epeople in charge of changes liek this.
They had HOW LONG on the PTR? I expect spelling mistakes and minor stuff, but not crap like this. What a bunch of tards.
Edit:Look at me! I cant even type im so annoyed.
Post by
Cytrus
And there was the dream of the comeback of shockadin. Maybe in 3.2...
Post by
Rydiak
Fun that our burst was lowered so we could get Exorcism, and now we don't even have that. I don't think there was ever a patch Ret wasn't nerfed in.
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Post by
Lightrain
Source or it didn't happen.
That's just stupid. Since we are already horribly low on the dps charts. Why would they nerf our "burst" in PvP? Because BG nubs are QQing?
I can't fathom this nerf.
Edit- Not to mention that our DPS ONLY scales with raid buffs. This would literally break our PvP viability to the N'th degree. Ferals with zero buffs can do 4k dps on boss dummies. Ret's do 2500 self buffed.
Post by
Quest
^ Your jokes are not funny UhOh!
Post by
Lightrain
I would ignore this thread. If anything it's a bug, or you didn't see it hit. Burst is all we have, and resil combats it to a scaling issue that's just horribly disappointing.
Post by
allsensesfailed
SO Sad :( died finding this out.... hit my exorcism and it nothing hit it again nothing so i was like wtf so i kept hitting it thinking maybe sys locked for a sec then i died! so sad if they take this away.
Post by
MrArmageddon
It's a kick in the balls, that's for sure. Why on earth couldn't they have tested it on the PTRs or whatever before giving us the spell? It would have been ok if they just gave us the spell and took it away, but they also nerfed our burst so that exorsism could come into the game. Now we loose a spell and our burst. Pull your head out of your ass, blizzard -_-
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346646
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Post by
Lightrain
..... OMFG!.....
My ret paladin is now retired. This is retarded.
Q u o t e:
We made a change in the 3.1.1 patch to prevent Exorcism from being used on players. We didn’t announce this change ahead of time because we were trying to get the tooltip changed at the same time to reduce confusion. We still plan on getting the tooltip updated ASAP. Exorcism’s use in PvE has not changed at this time.
Going with a “not on players” solution is not ideal and we will be re-designing how the ability works in a future patch (the plan is sooner rather than later). We don’t like for PvE and PvP mechanics to work differently when we can avoid it. We also don’t like for a major damaging ability to be excluded from the PvP game. However, we thought this had become a balance issue serious enough to address at this time.
We shifted around paladin damage for 3.1 trying to increase sustained damage while reducing burst damage. Unfortunately, the Exorcism change did the opposite. Instead of stealing a GCD from a paladin, it actually gave them an extra one. A Retribution paladin could use Exorcism to cause damage while closing to melee and then be ready to go with their melee damage attacks. (Exorcism of course is not limited to Ret paladins either.) We changed the way paladins do damage for Lich King, so while it is unfortunate (and we accept full blame), it also isn’t too surprising that it is taking some effort to get their damage in the right place.
In the same patch where we remove the “not on players” limitation for Exorcism, we are going to change the way paladins do damage so that their normal combat moves have more depth to them instead of just using abilities every time they finish their cooldown. This should make causing damage as a paladin more interesting and also less bursty. While we have some ideas on how to accomplish that, if you have suggestions or your own ideas about how this could work, this would be a good time to share them. (As examples of abilities you don’t just use whenever their cooldown has finished, you might look at Conflagrate, Brain Freeze, Rip, Overpower or Arcane Blast.) We do request that you don’t fill the forums with posts of limited content or insight about how you don’t like to be nerfed. Nobody does.
It is always a judgment call about when a fix (a buff or a nerf) can’t wait. Some things we can’t change easily in hotfixes or small patches, and some things we consider too risky for technical reasons or for their potential effects on the game.
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They better put it back in the ret tree. This is STUPID!
Post by
svirve
All they did was remove Exorcism from being used on players.
It can still be used on every mob in the world (of warcraft).
In the same patch where we remove the “not on players” limitation for Exorcism, we are going to change the way paladins do damage so that their normal combat moves have more depth to them instead of just using abilities every time they finish their cooldown. This should make causing damage as a paladin more interesting and also less bursty. While we have some ideas on how to accomplish that, if you have suggestions or your own ideas about how this could work, this would be a good time to share them. (As examples of abilities you don’t just use whenever their cooldown has finished, you might look at Conflagrate, Brain Freeze, Rip, Overpower or Arcane Blast.) We do request that you don’t fill the forums with posts of limited content or insight about how you don’t like to be nerfed. Nobody does.
I love this part though. Revising pala damage *yummy*
Post by
linkhyrule
Wow blizz, thanks for nothing. I was ok with the SoB nerf cuz I we got exo out of it. Now it worthless if you plane on doing pvp. What a shock other class get to keep some off there burst. exo is coming right off my macro list cuz its not worth using for pvp. blizz was better off putting it back to where it only works on demons and undead. TY blizz from all the paladins
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