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Laihendi
I don't mean to be a &*!@ and disprove anything... but if you take any specific holy book and take it literally word for word, my question is, where did all the magic and miracles and supernatural creatures go?
Didn't exist.
@jtbm: yes Laihendi knows Jesus was a real person.
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ASHelmy
Only your book is perfect and the other ones have mistakes what?
Yes, only the Qu'ran is perfect, the other two have been altered over the years (whether by accident or not is not my concern).
Considering that Islam was founded in 610 AD, Christianity was established in the second century, and Judaism has been around for five thousand years, (give or take), I would say that the Tanak and the Bible are not based on the Qu'ran. The books of the Bible were written five hundred years before Mohammad was born.
Exactly, they are not based on it. Islam is but an Evolution of Christianity (In it's unaltered form).
Then please try to convince me that I am wrong, point out what you think is wrong and tell me why, maybe I will learn something new.
You are wrong because you choose to see it as "they're wrong in some ways" rather than "they're right in some ways".
I personally don't think that religion should have the breadth or faith that it does today. Aside from that, it is saddening to me when people who obviously believe the same greater goods can't, or refuse to, see that the other people in the other religion teach the same values, if without the same people or places or names.
Actually, I want to disagree with you here. I just said that they are wrong in some ways because we were talking about something that they were wrong about. Furthermore, Islam accepts anyone (by that I mean that a true christian is almost as good as a Muslim) who follows the
true
teachings of Moses or Jesus, but as they are too altered now to count as the true teachings, we say that they do some wrong things.
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Laihendi
Oh course he lived. That doesn't mean he has divine powers.
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ASHelmy
Oh course he lived. That doesn't mean he has divine powers.
He had, his gifts were that he was able to heal serious wounds and illnesses. He was also able (with god's permission) to raise the dead. He also had no father.
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ASHelmy
Oh course he lived. That doesn't mean he has divine powers.
He had, his gifts were that he was able to heal serious wounds and illness. He was also able (with god's permission) to raise the dead. He also had no father.
I knew that Judaism and Islam believed that Christ was a prophet, but I never really thought about how he was born. Do Muslims believe that he was born of the Virgin Mary? Did he have no father, or was Joseph his father? I would love to know.
Virgin mary. He had no father.
Edit: by that, I mean that he was born without a father, I have no idea if a man raised him along with Virgin mary
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Laihendi
Oh course he lived. That doesn't mean he has divine powers.
He had, his gifts were that he was able to heal serious wounds and illnesses. He was also able (with god's permission) to raise the dead. He also had no father.
Because that makes sense.
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TheMediator
ASHelmy, how exactly would I go about encountering an angel, besides dying?
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ASHelmy
He had, his gifts were that he was able to heal serious wounds and illnesses. He was also able (with god's permission) to raise the dead. He also had no father.
Well, you gotta consider the time it was written in. Firstly, no one here was exactly alive back then to tell us just how it happened, and you have to consider that people back then were a lot more supersticious.
The Bible has been written many times over and not even when it was written was Christ alive.
I remember seeing a 25-feet anaconda in my backyard when I was 5, but when I checked back with my mom it was a 2-feet garter snake.
The Qu'ran has it all, it tells us a lot of things. By healing wounds and such, I do not mean that he used magic, or that he waved his hand and *poof* all gone, he might have been given the knowledge of how to heal things that were, back then, considered incurable. That, in itself, would be a mircale. I believe that nothing happens "just like that", God must use the rules and laws of this universe when he does something in it.
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ASHelmy
Oh course he lived. That doesn't mean he has divine powers.
He had, his gifts were that he was able to heal serious wounds and illnesses. He was also able (with god's permission) to raise the dead. He also had no father.
Because that makes sense.
It does, Laihendi, read my last post.
ASHelmy, how exactly would I go about encountering an angel, besides dying?
Um, you wouldn't? Why do you ask?.
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