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Warlock 3.1 Tanking Guide
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Post by
asakawa
ok. first, the spell hit table does not work like the melee one. a roll is done for hit and miss then a second roll is done for crit. this means that a low hit chance actually reduces your crit chance below your character sheet percentage. if 17% of your spells miss that 17% that never got a chance to be crits. if you have a 50% crit rate you'll be critting on half of the remaining 83%. this is, of course, 41.5%, a big difference from your 50% character sheet crit.
second, the searing pain glyph increases crit
damage
not chance. 1 glyph is not going to be twice as powerful than 3 talent points is it?
in this (as you say half serious) hypothetical scenario, hit matters. more than ever.
while searing pain is fine for single targets, every spell will receive the maximum pushback of 1 second making our quick nuke a slow one. we have no high threat AoE spells and for that will be reliant on meta+IA. the only way we would have a chance of maintaining threat would be to have large amounts of spellpower and as much hit as possible.
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467179
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Post by
asakawa
"warlock tanking " is dependant on far too many talents in demonology to hit shadowfury. what's more SF isn't nearly as useful as you're thinking it is since a lot of the difficult things to tank will be immune to the stun. as for AoE threat, i don't necessarily top the threat meter among other DPS when i'm in my best DPS gear and DPS spec. how do you think a warlock in pvp gear and tank trinkets is going to hold threat in AoE without meta... even with meta.
i've said before in this thread but the fun hypothetical really runs into a brick wall on the threat problem.
Post by
Infleto
how did this start up again. . .
Really tanking as a lock if fun. trying to do it is a PUG will never happen as people will not go for it. it took 4 hours to get group for H Nexus. The healer was my Boy friend and one DPS was my BF's Dad. 4 hours to find 2 DPS.
So you should be theorycrafting on a way to get a group going first.
Post by
asakawa
lol.
it's an interesting concept to flex your theorycrafting muscles on. interesting because it's such a cross-over thing, combining details of pvp, tanking and casting. good stuff.
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467179
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Post by
asakawa
oh i didn't mean that as a slight on you or anything, just a silly expression.
Post by
snackwell
I'll still tank better......
Mana Shield Spam HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Snacks Dah Mage
Post by
asakawa
as interesting as it was erudite. many thanks.
Post by
312381
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Post by
asakawa
again, many many issues with maths and general misconceptions about DR.
aff has no threat - it can not tank.
HIT is too important to ignore.
the SPain glyph does NOT give 20% crit chance (see above, we did this already).
also... i'm no pvper so i may be missing something here but i couldn't find a 226 arena set on wowhead. i'm assuming you made a wowhead profile so perhaps you could link it?
Post by
WoWTheoryCraft
also... i'm no pvper so i may be missing something here but i couldn't find a 226 arena set on wowhead. i'm assuming you made a wowhead profile so perhaps you could link it?
There isn't.
PvP gear progression is:
Hateful (200) -> Deadly (213) -> Furious (232) -> Relentless (251)
Post by
asakawa
good to know. seems to somewhat undermine a lot of thehuntard's comments.
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239567
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Post by
Silarey
Lulz, warlock win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS-mk2WMq8I
We already tank. This is all old news!
Post by
asakawa
you derisively say "old news" then link a youtube video of a warlock tanking a ToC boss when in the original post there's a video a warlock tanking patchwerk. this is much older news than you seem to think.
Post by
Chills
how did this start up again. . .I'm surprised there are very little mentions of
Keleseth
in here. Probably because it's an easy fight? :D
Post by
asakawa
...or because this is an old thread and that's a brand new encounter?
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