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Post by
zejuan
Im haveing alittle problem with my DK these days, just seams like i stop progressing in DPS. Have almost all my gear up to ilvl 213 but still bearly over 4k dps and have been so for a while even tho gear is getting better. Either im doing something wrong with spec and rotation or is just not DKs ment too manage more dps?
Have been both 0/32/39, 51/020, 21/0/50, 0/44/27 both 2 hander and DW and so on and so forth. feel i have a good grip on rotations for all specs and understand the class fearly good.
So basically my questions is, how much dps are the rest off you 25 man geared dps dks putting out? and thinking mainly of patchwerk bosses without any stupid +crit +dmg buffs ofc.
adding a armorylink for inspec of gear
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Zejuan
Post by
dervasavred
Your spec is a little strange. Why did you take DRM in Blood? You shouldn't ever Oblit and Death Strike is a moot point (it's just going to use your UF runes like SS does; it's not like you want UF converted to DD for Blood Rune usage when you're Unholy spec). Move those points into Wandering Plague in Unholy.
Also, a matter of taste, but take the points from Desecration and move them into Dirge and Corpse Explosion. CE is fun and well worth the 1 point for the possibilities in AoE it offers.
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dervasavred
I'd keep desecration but he's right on the DRM thing.
All solid info from Husnan and it is all definitely things to keep in mind.
However, Desecration is weak for Unholy due to its static nature. Its buff stays in place while you move around on many bosses (though it would come in handy for, say, Patchwerk and Thaddius).
Also, it relies on the fact that you even Plague Strike regularly (Glyph of Scourge Strike precludes this) and even then, with only 3/5 as most people take (or have room to take), it's not even guaranteed to proc.
It's not a terrible talent and it is a DPS increase when active. The problem is its nature is lackluster. If they converted it into an aura or a buff on the player, the talent would be near-mandatory. But at the moment, there are better talents.
This being said, 3.1 may change my opinion on this a little. It might be worth the points from Unholy Aura since that is self-only now.
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Post by
zejuan
Your spec is a little strange. Why did you take DRM in Blood? You shouldn't ever Oblit and Death Strike is a moot point (it's just going to use your UF runes like SS does; it's not like you want UF converted to DD for Blood Rune usage when you're Unholy spec). Move those points into Wandering Plague in Unholy.
Also, a matter of taste, but take the points from Desecration and move them into Dirge and Corpse Explosion. CE is fun and well worth the 1 point for the possibilities in AoE it offers.
I'd keep desecration but he's right on the DRM thing.
You have too much hit too, get more strength instead.
And remember : your dps doesnt only depend on you, even on Patchwerk.
If the rest of the raid is bad, the fight is gonna last longer. If the fight lasts 3 minutes instead of 1 min 30, it means you had bloodlust for 25% of the time instead of 50%, and gargoyle up for 1/6 of the time instead of 1/3. These things really change your dps, even though you may not be doing anything wrong.
Also, do you use Army of the Dead on Patchwerk? It's a big increase of my personnal DPS, around +3-400 depending on the length of the fight.
Do you use Gargoyle after bloodlust was cast? Do you use foodbuffs for you and your ghoul? Do you use the right glyphs? What's your rotation?
The list goes on and on... it's hard to know what's wrong with such low amount of info.
So im gonna jump by the spec thing since i specced unholy the other day fast and WRONG :)
But AOTD on patch, ofc and all other bosses i can woth out it !@#$in up tanking or what ever.
Gargoyle, since it scales of your current stats i allways use it when bloodlust or trinket procs or fallen crusader or all at once :)
I use 40 str food and ap flask, no food for pet. glyphs are boneshield, ghoul and SS.
Rotation is mostly done on site :) well all comes down to boss and fight, but ofc i pop gargoyle, UB and DC as often as i can. boneshield is most often up 100% of the fight and so are HoW.
But still the question remains, how much DPS do you other guys do? and what specc?
Is there like a "limit" for 5k dps from unholy atm? (have heard of some doing 5.5k 0/32/39)
Sorry for beeing stupid and strange but im getting alittle bored of my DK these days /cry
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Post by
zejuan
I've never managed to break the 5k dps limit myself as unholy
However, i've reached 5.800 with a frost 2h dps build and 5.500 with 32/39 DW
The world record last time i checked was 7500 on patchwerk from a russian dude dual wielding Last Laugh and using a 35/36 build (with runic power mastery and no night of the dead). The fight lasted less than 1min30 which means he had bloodlust, aotd and gargoyle for over half the duration of the fight so these numbers need to be put into perspective imo, even though they're impressive.
7.500 is very impressive yes. Well im thinking of trying 2H 0/44/27 again now and see or else il go 0/32/39 again, have 2 wpns from 25 naxx so should be better then the KT wpn from 10 man... i dont know anymore. feel DKs have stopped beeing fun :) ill have to wait til 3.1 to get live i guess...
Post by
dervasavred
I've never broken 5k on a single target but I have come awful close at roughly 4800 on our fastest Patchwerk kill ever.
For the record, I am a 17/0/54 with CE and NotD, without UA or Des.
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