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[Cata] The Frost AoE Grinding Guide
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Post by
dervasavred
I'm looking for a good AoE frost leveling build. I've used the build at the beginning but now that I'm at level 62, I'm struggling to figure out where to put my points.
I would start working down the Arcane tree to pick up Clearcasting if you have picked up as many +damage talents in Frost as possible.
Post by
Fizzles
Updated for 3.3.3.
I won't be answering many questions unfortunately, as study does take priority. D:
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Post by
Jacmac
I'm not a proponent of frost AoE grinding, especially before level 40. But if I was going to do it at 40 this would be my build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#oZZMIcIsfz0dz:j
I never liked Cone of Cold and Winter's Chill maxed out isn't all that valuable. I would rather have the points in Ice Shards and Piercing Ice. You use nothing but Blizzard for AoE.
By level 50 you can max out Winter's Chill, spec in Shatter and Fingers of Frost, and also get the Water Elemental. Get the Glyph of Eternal Water and the pet becomes a great utility for AoE:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#oZZMIcIsfu0fzMbo:jn
At Level 60 you want Arcane Concentration:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0VZZMIcIsfu0fzbbo:jn
After that, pick up Torment the Weak and put a few point in Arcane Meditation, although you won't really have a mana problem by 70:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vbh0fZZMIcIsfu0fzbbo:jn
And something like this would be the pinnacle of Frost AoE:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vbh0fdbGZZMIcIsfu0fzbbo:jni
Totally gimped against a single target or boss, but great Solo AoE.
Post by
woohaa
So i started up a new mage and it's 25 now. I'm pretty much going the standard frost aoe spec. The only big issues i'm having (aside from mana) is that most of the tanks in LFD don't know how to tank. their dps that clicked tank. So naturally if they grab more then 2 mobs i'll pull agro on everything. Is it worth it to max imp blizz and permafrost so that i can increase the amount of time i can channel blizzard before i have to spam arcane explosion?
Basically i feel like i should be using the solo aoe spec instead of a dungeon spec because of the ratio of good tanks to bad tanks i've seen so far. My wife is also making a disc priest at the same time so if i pull agro and have to mage tank everything i don't have to worry about our healer ranting about me pulling agro and leaving.
any advice...i'm also wearing the pve shoulder, chest and staff heirlooms. no trinkets sadly :(
Edit: oh also most of the tanks i've had don't even attempt to repick up the mob...no taunts...no switching and attacking the mob(s) that are on me. I'm not high enough to max out frost channeling yet. But shatter and frost channeling are my next 2 priority talents.
Post by
Jacmac
In my frost guide I stated exactly the problems you're finding. Rather than AoE, you might be better off doing single targets, at least until the tank has built up some aggro on a group.
Tanks at the early levels are often set up for dps, are just ignorant of what their role is supposed to be, and/or don't really know anything about playing a tank. I ran into the problems you're seeing in the 50's; many newbie DK's show up as tanks at that point.
Post by
woohaa
well i've had a few good tanks so far that can hold agro but single target is worse. 1 frostbolt usually pulls...i use a target=targettarget macro so i'm frostbolting whatever they're attacking but with the heirlooms i'm doing more dmg then a non-experienced tank can hold against.
what i have been trying like you said is wait for them to build up threat....even if their not experienced i'll give them maybe till 1 mob hits half health i'll start up a blizzard and finish everything off. then while their pulling the next group i'll drink. my dmg sucks but i don't pull agro that way. in a few more lvls i can max out frost channeling and i hope that fixes it. Also i'm using the arcane explosion glyph if i do pull agro my wife will just heal me thru the dmg till it all dies.
Post by
etrin
I hope that someone can give me some information. I used this to level from 21 to 43 and then I started to just quest and dungeon finder to make it to 60. I kept going frost, maybe not that smart but I like it.
Well I got to outland and said yep time to go back to grinding to get a few levels on the birds.
Well I know I was rusty but damn I was having all kinds of problems.
this is my skills what did I mess up and what do I need to change to get back to aoe grinding?
I have looked at Jacmac post above and I see that he only puts 41 points into frost. I went all out in it. So I need to change my build but what I wanted to ask is this going to be a good build for anything else?
Can I do instances and quest with it?
Personally even with a ton in frost I feel that I am drinking like a fish and not doing that much damage. BUT after playing a lot of 80 chrs everything feels like mush ROFL
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Question to everyone
Glyph of Water Elemental. I see that Jacmac has this in his build. I love the ele for leveling but for aoe and no freeze is this something anyone uses while aoe grinding? At first I tried him because every once in a while I missed a mob with nova. He could freeze and get me back on track. But in reality I find that its almost never used and re summoning is a pain. I don't think this trade off is very fair. Did anyone elses pet have to sac half their skills to be perm, or require a glyph ? nope
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My God I am level 64 but out of rested. I forgot how quickly it runs out in BC...1.5 levels and its all gone..so I can play 6 hrs every 10 days or go crazy with no bonus.
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Post by
Fizzles
Finally updated for 3.3.5.
The changes to Cataclysm look amazing, so far. I'll update the guide when Cataclysm ships, since it's still far to early to make assupmtions.
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Post by
MrSCH
My only concern is the speed. You say 6 levels per 24, yet I'm level 25 and questing is giving me an hour a level, max.
Just don't do it before 40, it's not worth it. Too much effort for too little reward, and you make one mistake, or one frost nova gets resisted/misses and you're probably dead.
And don't even talk to me about adds... %^&*ing, #$%^ing adds.
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