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Post by
Adamsm
Yeah but Zombieland was a mock zombie movie lol.
Post by
Rankkor
Yeah but Zombieland was a mock zombie movie lol.
and
it
was
AWESOME
Post by
dayoodin
Most people aren't willing to admit that they are up against a Zombie, and just think it's some drugged out person; now later in the movie, after surviving attacks and still acting like that, they deserve to be eaten. I find most people deserve to be eaten, anyway, LOL.
again
Genre Blind
by default. "Most protagonists in movies, will act as if they've never seen a movie" Genre Blindness is annoying!
the problem with this is that in most zombie movies, zombies can't feel pain, as such, shots in the torso will not incapacitate them, only shot to the leg will hinder their movements if you sever the tendons connecting the bones together. Oh, yes! I meant "incapacitating" as in slowing them down a bit with the force of the shot, not making them hurt.
If I was in the middle of a zombie holocaust, the best weapon to kill a zombie would be either explosives, or fire. As both can get rid of the threat even by collateral damage. Of course, the limitations of that method is that they can't be used in enclosed environments. I think I would pick a flamethrower.
I know for a fact that certain high-caliber rifles and auto-shotguns have enough kinetic force to rip apart someone's torso open like a banana. IF a zombie is shot with such a weapon, even if the shot is in the chest, it should eliminate them as a threat. Like a Desert Eagle? I shot one of those once at a gun show.
The good guys will often fire few shots and ALWAYS hit ,even under implausible conditions such as falling, running, strugling, or not using a support. Right! But even with these magical powers, they still won't aim for the zombie heads. >_<
Then again, the movie "Zombieland" features a sequence where one of the protagonists is shooting an AK rifle WHILE HANGING UPSIDE DOWN in full auto, and hits a horde of zombies straight in the head. Haha, I forgot about that. Actually, I liked that movie up until they got into the fairground, and then I thought it was stupid and they made so many poor mistakes... like TURNING ON ALL THE LIGHTS TO ATTRACT THE ZOMBIES TO THEM, for example.
now that is flat-out impossible :P (Just hanging upside down for more than 4 minutes will render you near blind due to the excess of blood on the brain) I hope I never have to hang upside down for more than four minutes, then.
Post by
Adamsm
If I was in the middle of a zombie holocaust, the best weapon to kill a zombie would be either explosives, or fire. As both can get rid of the threat even by collateral damage. Of course, the limitations of that method is that they can't be used in enclosed environments. I think I would pick a flamethrower. I really wouldn't; too much fuel required for it, and all you'd do was having walking flaming pyres till they burn enough to finally drop down due to muscles being destroyed. Same with explosives: All you do then, if you don't get a really lucky throw, is possibly half a zombie dragging itself through the grass, now at ankle height to bite you.
Post by
baradiel
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=77103.6104
woot i got the first day i posted :D
Post by
MyTie
Either way, I think it was cool for OZ to state their issue and ask for you to change it and I think it would have been cool if you had decided to change it out of respect for the request but, t'is a mere bagatelle.
Ok
You don't see me weeping when people mock me by calling my God some kind of "wizard" (hurr durr).
Dude, even though I'm a devoted Christian, from a technical point of view, God IS sorta a wizard. At least he performs super-natural miracles that no human being can duplicate, and from a purely technical point of view, that's what a wizard does.
:P
The big difference is that God is real and wizards are imaginary.
Post by
dayoodin
The big difference is that God is real... Subjective.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, according to you.
Post by
dayoodin
I really wouldn't; too much fuel required for it, and all you'd do was having walking flaming pyres till they burn enough to finally drop down due to muscles being destroyed. Same with explosives: All you do then, if you don't get a really lucky throw, is possibly half a zombie dragging itself through the grass, now at ankle height to bite you. What if I were up high and they were below me? Then I wouldn't be in danger of their burning bodies running into me until they go out and then when I run out of fuel I could... do something else, like hope they can't come and get me up high. LOL. Zombies in the grass are gross (and still just as dangerous, to your point). I think it was in "The Walking Dead" where they had a great scene with a female zombie torso in the grass that the main character puts out of its misery (if zombie HAVE "misery"?).
Post by
204878
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Post by
Adamsm
Even then, you'd still have flaming corpses walking around, and if you are in a dry area, could suddenly have the entire area on fire heh.
Post by
dayoodin
Good points, everyone. *sigh* The flamethrower is out, then. I shall stick with my (pink) shotgun!
Post by
Rankkor
again
Genre Blind
by default. "Most protagonists in movies, will act as if they've never seen a movie" Genre Blindness is annoying!
You're telling me :P
there's some movies where the genre blindness of its protagonists is so baffling, one wonders how did they even learned how to tie their shoelaces.
Case in Point
Try and guess which one she chooses? :P
the problem with this is that in most zombie movies, zombies can't feel pain, as such, shots in the torso will not incapacitate them, only shot to the leg will hinder their movements if you sever the tendons connecting the bones together. Oh, yes! I meant "incapacitating" as in slowing them down a bit with the force of the shot, not making them hurt.
Only high-caliber guns will do that when used on the chest. The type of guns that can knock a person back with the impact. And generally the few guns that can do that, have enough potency to rip apart the torso anyways. Even more so when zombies tend to already be decayed and rotting.
If I was in the middle of a zombie holocaust, the best weapon to kill a zombie would be either explosives, or fire. As both can get rid of the threat even by collateral damage. Of course, the limitations of that method is that they can't be used in enclosed environments. I think I would pick a flamethrower.
Well, for a civilian, a flamethrower is a hard weapon to come by, and the fuel required for it to run isn't exactly cheap. Having said that, a simple booby-trap of kerosene can do the trick just as well.
I know for a fact that certain high-caliber rifles and auto-shotguns have enough kinetic force to rip apart someone's torso open like a banana. IF a zombie is shot with such a weapon, even if the shot is in the chest, it should eliminate them as a threat. Like a Desert Eagle? I shot one of those once at a gun show.
really? >.< lucky you. I've only gone to one gun show, and they dind't let the people use the weapons being shown. Furthermore, the one time I've ever used a real gun it was an old bolt-action rifle while hunting (and my accuracy was so lame all I did was scare the crap of a poor duck, and hit myself on the jaw with the recoil, but I digress)
A desert eagle isn't a very practical weapon. Too heavy, small clip, and while it has stoping power, its accuracy blows. Unless you're almost at point blank, or fire slowly, its no good.
I was thinking more along the lines of High-precision sniper rifles like the Barret.
The good guys will often fire few shots and ALWAYS hit ,even under implausible conditions such as falling, running, strugling, or not using a support. Right! But even with these magical powers, they still won't aim for the zombie heads. >_<
Not always, on the Dawn of the Dead remake, I recall protagonists pulling headshots almost sporadically.
Then again, the movie "Zombieland" features a sequence where one of the protagonists is shooting an AK rifle WHILE HANGING UPSIDE DOWN in full auto, and hits a horde of zombies straight in the head. Haha, I forgot about that. Actually, I liked that movie up until they got into the fairground, and then I thought it was stupid and they made so many poor mistakes... like TURNING ON ALL THE LIGHTS TO ATTRACT THE ZOMBIES TO THEM, for example.
Well, as adamsm said, it was a mock/parody of zombie movies (Much in the same way as "True Lies" is a mock/parody of action flicks, where just about every single clishe is exploited in a glorious fashion)
now that is flat-out impossible :P (Just hanging upside down for more than 4 minutes will render you near blind due to the excess of blood on the brain) I hope I never have to hang upside down for more than four minutes, then.
the blindness wouldn't be permanent unless you stay that way for days, but yes, it can disrupt your vision momentarily if done for more than just a few minutes. I used to hang upside down in the jungle gym at school, and after a few minutes, my head would hurt, and unless I got down from there, my vision would get fuzzy for a while.
Under those conditions, firing accurately is flat-out impossible.
Post by
Rankkor
You don't see me weeping when people mock me by calling my God some kind of "wizard" (hurr durr).
Dude, even though I'm a devoted Christian, from a technical point of view, God IS sorta a wizard. At least he performs super-natural miracles that no human being can duplicate, and from a purely technical point of view, that's what a wizard does.
:P
The big difference is that God is real and wizards are imaginary.
Hence why I used words such as "Sorta" and "from a certain point of view"
He's not 100% a wizard, but he resembles one if we look strictly at the fact that both can do super-natural acts. So at least in THAT one regard, they are similar.
Post by
204878
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
The big difference is that God is real... Subjective.
It's not subjective. Even if you don't think God is real, saying it is "subjective" is not accurate. God is real or He isn't. That isn't a matter of opinion. He is or He is not. It is completely objective. If you want, you can say that my statement cannot be determined to be fact, as it is not disprovable, or you could even say I am flat out wrong if you want. But to say that my statement is subjective, I think shows you don't know the meaning of that word.
Post by
asakawa
You know quite well what they meant and you know, I'm sure, that dayoodin understands the meaning of the word subjective. Is there any need to jump on the use of a single word that makes perfect sense in the context and conversational style and make accusations about someone's understanding of language?
You make me frown and shake my head, you really do.
Post by
392412
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
You make me frown and shake my head, you really do.Ok
Post by
dayoodin
there's some movies where the genre blindness of its protagonists is so baffling, one wonders how did they even learned how to tie their shoelaces.
Case in Point
Try and guess which one she chooses? :P LOL. That is a really good example of truly perplexing genre blindness!
really? >.< lucky you. I've only gone to one gun show, and they dind't let the people use the weapons being shown. Furthermore, the one time I've ever used a real gun it was an old bolt-action rifle while hunting (and my accuracy was so lame all I did was scare the crap of a poor duck, and hit myself on the jaw with the recoil, but I digress) Yes! It was pretty awesome. But, no, not very practical at all.
I was thinking more along the lines of High-precision sniper rifles like the Barret. But could civilian handle one of those or come across one easily?
Not always, on the Dawn of the Dead remake, I recall protagonists pulling headshots almost sporadically. I haven't watched that one recently, but I'll have to rewatch it to see! We have it on Bluray, I think. And then it reminds me of Shawn of the Dead!
Well, as adamsm said, it was a mock/parody of zombie movies (Much in the same way as "True Lies" is a mock/parody of action flicks, where just about every single clishe is exploited in a glorious fashion) If the whole movie had been that silly, I wouldn't have thought much on it, but they were pretty smart up until then so it just seemed so out of place for the development they had already done.
I used to hang upside down in the jungle gym at school, and after a few minutes, my head would hurt, and unless I got down from there, my vision would get fuzzy for a while.You were far more athletic than me! XD
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