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Post by
Neutronimity
The other day while I was shaving, I realized some things:
Mothers can be very insistent in helping a guy shave (at least my mom was). She claimed my beard had grown far too long to be handled by an ordinary wet razor blade, and then proceeded to cut with a scissor, as if my beard were like normal hair being trimmed..
I had forgotten to apply shaving foam to the beard portion on the upper lip (moustache). I decided I would do it after shaving my cheeks and neck. However, my facial hair has gotten a lot darker since a few months ago, and so I found myself with a ridiculous face and irritating mustache. =( If you need any reference, my face and beard looked like
Borat
rather than
Freddy Mercury
. With the facial hair color being brown, of course. Needless to say, it isn't an experience I would like to repeat. =o
I shaved in the middle of Movember/Manvember (whatever you prefer). Am I now a traitor? =X
My wish that my facial hair would naturally grow and miraculously vanish after having grown long enough is still as true as ever. I
hate
going through this 45-minute ordeal of shaving and the razor burn over the next 1-2 days.
(##RESPBREAK##)2700##DELIM##Neutronimity##DELIM##
Post by
MyTie
The reason people can keep justifying generalizations to themselves, is that every time someone brings up an exception, they can say "Not that particular person, but most of them, fit this mold."I get it. I've explained that a number of times, but admittedly not directly enough. I'll spell it out for you and Donny:
Anyone who insists that exclusions are spelled out in each generalized sentence is a nit picker. It reminds me of my 12 year old daughter. If I say something like "People go to Wal Mart to shop", then I can count on her to say something like "What about the people that just go there to use the bathroom". Yeah, I get it. Not every single person fits the mold of the group they are in, and it would be unfair to stereotype the entire group. However, generalizations are very necessary to effective communication. That is why I gave the example sentences that included exclusions. Do you remember how cumbersome, difficult to read, and sarcastic they were? Do we really need to go there?
"People go to Wal mart to shop"
versus
"Some people who go to Wal Mart, go there to shop, or with the intention of shopping, however, there are people who go there for other reasons, such as using the bathroom. There are others perhaps that end up at Wal Mart by mistake, or to accompany someone who is there for shopping, or accompanying someone who is there by mistake. Further, some people may go to wal mart to pick up members of the opposite sex, or for an array of other reasons. It can be understood, that someone, somewhere, probably, may at some point, have entered a wal mart, or perhaps thought about entering a wal mart, with a vauge intent or mistaken will to purchase goods."
People do go to Wal mart to shop. Saying "People go to Wal Mart to shop", although a generalization, is a true generalization. It doesn't mean that I think that ALL people go to Wal Mart to shop.
Finally, I think if incendiary comments are going to be made, if they are true, they should be attributed appropriately, and without any semblence of stereotyping. But my statement wasn't incendiary. It was "Wowheaders consistently defend World of Warcraft". And, that statement, is a true statement. I don't believe that that would always happen, or that every wowheader would defend World of Warcraft. I don't believe every wowheader even posts.
But in the end, strip away what you believe or don't believe a generalization is, and just look at my statement:
Wowhead posters consistently defend World of Warcraft.
Is the above statement true? Answer the question in your mind.
If the answer is YES: leave me alone, because my statement is neither wrong nor inflammatory.
If the answer is NO: leave me alone, because you are high.
Post by
Ketho
The other day while I was shaving, I realized some things:
.. no more diableard? :(
Oh well now you don't have to fear for it anymore to be shaved in the middle of the night :)
--
I always went to wal mart for the 1 dollar double cheeseburgers, when I was visiting the US.
love how cheap most of the
stuff
food there is
Post by
Neutronimity
The other day while I was shaving, I realized some things:
.. no more diableard? :(
No, that had ended even earlier. >_> Back then, while eating I had noticed butter sticking to my beard, and I had decided that having a long beard was
in no way worth that
. I shaved after immediately.(##RESPBREAK##)2700##DELIM##Neutronimity##DELIM##
Post by
ElhonnaDS
@MyTie- Oh, I agree that the wowhead thing isn't a big deal. That's why I brought it up here. In a lot of threads, the debate gets derailed when people start bickering over the semantics and not the substance of what people are saying. Whether or not it's technically this or that usually isn't as important as the concept people are trying to express behind the words. That's why, when other threads have gotten into it over the definition of "generalization" I preferred to try and get back on topic. In this case, the topic was moot, so I felt like commenting. Whether or not someone is a defender of a game is irrelevant. Whether you can tell by someone's nationality that they'll probably be violent and ignorant isn't. And whether you think that they're 100% likely, 80% likely, 50% likely, etc., isn't as important as how much information- direct information, not hearsay- went into that decision. That's why people keep bringing it up. Not because they want to fight about semantics, or because they want you to account verbally for every possible variation and exception. It's because when you say things like many people of this type do this, but offer no facts or concrete information behind it, it's hard to have a real discussion about it.
If someone said to me- "I believe that most people from the North Pole do this," and I asked "Well, what are you basing it on- it sounds like kind of a generalization," and someone says "Here are some studies that people did, polls of opinion, different laws they voted on, passages in important religious or cultural texts that lead me to believe this." Then I would say "Ok, I see your point." When people reply to the accusation of a generalization with arguments about semantics, it kind of bypasses the issue I was trying to bring up- that maybe they didn't have enough information on hand to know how true their perceptions really were.
We're not trying to back you into a corner. We're trying to get you to expand on the substance behind your statements, so that we can have a proper debate.
Post by
Adamsm
MyTie doesn't really do that heh.
Post by
Interest
Where's your icon, rose?
Post by
ElhonnaDS
On a different note, I noticed that my grocery store had dolmades on the salad bar today, so i brought some home to have something different to snack on. So good.
Post by
Interest
On a different note, I noticed that my grocery store had dolmades on the salad bar today, so i brought some home to have something different to snack on. So good.
Dolmades are freaking awesome. I ate some a couple months ago and want more...
But I can't find any, except at an expensive restaurant.
Post by
MyTie
We're not trying to back you into a corner. We're trying to get you to expand on the substance behind your statements, so that we can have a proper debate.
In this case, personal experience. I have no statistical data, or scientific studies.MyTie doesn't really do that heh.Do what?
Post by
Neutronimity
Where's your icon, rose?
Do I need an icon? >_<
Post by
Interest
Where's your icon, rose?
Do I need an icon? >_<
Would be cool =).
Post by
Jubilee
Men and their facial hair obsessions <.<
Tell your mother she has my full support.
Post by
Adamsm
My girlfriend doesn't mind my neck beard.
Post by
Pwntiff
Men and their facial hair obsessions <.<
Tell your mother she has my full support.
I've decided I have to go either clean or full-on mountain man. I'm too lazy to actually trim and groom.
Post by
Adamsm
MOUNTAIN MAN!
Post by
Pwntiff
Navy would make me get rid of it.
Post by
Jubilee
Navy would make me get rid of it.
You can have a mustache in the Navy, I think.
Post by
Interest
Men and their facial hair obsessions <.<
Tell your mother she has my full support.
I'm Asian. What's facial hair?
Post by
Pwntiff
Yeah, one that does not extend past down past the beginning of the lip or past the corner's of the mouth.
I'd go for a Charlie Chaplin, but that might not go over too well...
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