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Ioka
The haste soft cap is 15.94%.
Your 375 haste rating confers 11.4364% haste.
Improved Moonkin Aura / Swift Retribution confers another +3%.
IAotH confers another +3%, and the glyph another +6%.
Granted, investing in IAotH is a DPS increase, because haste isn't valueless after the soft cap, but the chance that something else is better is much higher after the soft cap.
Replaced my legs today with leggings of failed escape which dont have haste so im actualy down to 338 haste rating right now, guess i just keep the one talent point in IAotH+glyph for now to be on the safe side with soft cap. Thanks for the clarification tho.
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Taedae
Is this spec any good for arena/bg's?
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZ0eVoohZf0IiofIheziMoz
i think it looks pretty good. the only things i would change is taking points from hawk eye and putting them into savage strikes. the other thing is putting points in improv concussion shot. other than that, looks solid.
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mazhop
I just switched today from BM to SV to see how it plays based on the upcoming patch.
Here's my Armory.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Mandya
A couple of things I've noticed right away. DPS is down and I tend to pull aggro from my cat, ( I also have a wasp too). It could be just adjusting to a new style of play that are causing both. It's a huge adjustment for sure over BM.
Base crit is 25% and I know it needs to be way higher. So here's the question. Do I work upping my crit, which will increase my overall DPS, and is there a specfic pet build for SV over MM and BM? Search is a wonderful tool, but nothing seems to come up regarding pet builds when I look.
I realize with all the PTR changes taking place, this will change daily. I haven't run a heroic yet with this build, but we're doing 25 man OS tomorrow night with guildies. The raid leader is interested to see how i play SV knowing how I do as a BM.
Oh what fun it is...
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I just switched today from BM to SV to see how it plays based on the upcoming patch.
Here's my Armory.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Mandya
A couple of things I've noticed right away. DPS is down and I tend to pull aggro from my cat, ( I also have a wasp too). It could be just adjusting to a new style of play that are causing both. It's a huge adjustment for sure over BM.
you are going to see a DPS drop right now. only because survival has gotten the buff yet. my dps dropped but i havent given up on the fact that the buff is coming. heroic groups i run in know that i am survival and the casters love the mana regen because i my crit rate is about 30-40%. also, xplo shot still sucks, but its great shot to use no matter how much it sucks.
Base crit is 25% and I know it needs to be way higher. So here's the question. Do I work upping my crit, which will increase my overall DPS, and is there a specfic pet build for SV over MM and BM? Search is a wonderful tool, but nothing seems to come up regarding pet builds when I look.
my base crit is about that also. i just got my hit rating to 8% (YAY!) so i am now working on getting my stuff enchanted so i can put those 3 points from Focused Aim into something else, like Arcane shot (post patch) seeing as how its going to be a better shot than steady at that time.
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mazhop
So, today is spending some (actually plenty) of gold on new gems and enchants on agility. I ran 10 man vault last night and did 1.8k on dps with my current set up.
Leth, I'll make the changes you suggested on getting agi up there. Here's a question which might help, this is a base minimum of agi that SV hunters should be looking for?
Taedae, tis good to know. I ran with two BM's last night and it still felt good being able to contribute other than pure DPS.
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Taedae
when i respeced survival, i had a AP increase of about 500-600 AP. my DPS as BM? avg of 1.6k when starting heroics. now? i just hit 1.5-1.7k last night as surv and i started at around 1.2k. i finally got a good rotation down.
xplo / serpent / 2x steady
or
xplo / steady x3
if i needed to refresh sting, i would go back to the first one, other than that, i would stay with the second add in aimed shot on bosses.
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mazhop
when i respeced survival, i had a AP increase of about 500-600 AP. my DPS as BM? avg of 1.6k when starting heroics. now? i just hit 1.5-1.7k last night as surv and i started at around 1.2k. i finally got a good rotation down.
xplo / serpent / 2x steady
or
xplo / steady x3
if i needed to refresh sting, i would go back to the first one, other than that, i would stay with the second add in aimed shot on bosses.
Getting use to a new shot rotation seems to be key now. I've been using the first shot rotation. 3 key strokes vers 1 which makes it more interesting play.
I swapped all AP gems for AGI's and enchants all went AGI. I really didn't see a huge drop in overall AP. (maybe 100 tops) However, my agi went from 1008 to 1245 and crit went from 25% to 27.01%.
Next is working my on suck a** trinkets. 9 more badges then Mirror of Truth. No time for Heroics while at work.
Thanks guys for helping out, it's really appreciated.
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Taedae
Getting use to a new shot rotation seems to be key now. I've been using the first shot rotation. 3 key strokes vers 1 which makes it more interesting play.
its always key. i havent made any macros for the simple fact i am waiting for the patch to hit.
Next is working my on suck a** trinkets. 9 more badges then Mirror of Truth. No time for Heroics while at work.
i think i am close to it also. i think i am going to get rid of the "attack" trinket i have for it.
Thanks guys for helping out, it's really appreciated.
anytime.
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Taedae
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Duskwood&n=Ferronfang
you almost at hit capped. you need about 10 more points for it. i would gem it in your case because you have excellent gear. i also wouldnt enchant or gem AP for survival, you really want AGI. that will raise you AP even more being survival and you crit % as well.
now the Spec...
your crit rating is so high right now, i bet you can keep EW and HP up at 99% of the time at the recommend 2/3 and 2/5 respectfully. you also really dont need rapid kill because you dont really use arcane shot unless moving right?
so, with you gear, i would do
this
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