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Holy paladin naxxramas requirements.
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In full healing gear I have 1700 spellpower, 27.9 Holy Crit (23% overall) and over 17k mana pool. I put the point into Kings but don't have the Improved version. I really wanted the 18 points in Retribution. It pulled my crit up by 8 points and that is hard to walk away from that. Basically I'm 52/1/18.
I didn't use Kings much for myself. I use BOW while questing and raiding and so I have the Improved version. I love that I rarely need mana. I know that Kings is very popular with parties but keeping them alive is too so...they will have to deal with the less improved version.
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marlowe
so...you put one point in kings to get a 2% stat increase?
dont waste the talent point imo...
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Eledhwen
Yeah, I rethought that one and went with a 51/0/20 spec and hope people don't whine about not having Kings too much.
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To be honest with you as a warlock main raiding mostly 25mans I perfer wisdom over kings yes the 10%more int is nice but if I had the choice I'd rather have the regen so that I don't have to Life Tap nearly as much. so if 1 pally is in the raid I'd rather get wisdom and if another is in the raid then give me kings, as for my choice on the matter I am not the warlock class/raid lead so I don't get the final call on that unless I'm the only lock there.
To be honest with you (how do I put this nicely) you are a moron. As a warlock you should be all about kings. Having more stamina is a god sent when you consider that you will be life tapping anyways. Having more intellect also means better critical chance, and even as affliction you are going to have improved shadow bolt if you are talented correctly, and that means you still want to critical as often as possible which makes that increased intellect much nicer. The little bit of mana per 5 seconds that wisdom gives is not going to make you or break you. Every class is currently set up to stack stats, and that makes kings awesome.
That being said, if someone else can spec into kings then it is better for them to do so. The way kings is currently set up, every spec of the paladin that specs into kings loses out on part of their heals/dps/tanking in order to get it. Arguably, retribution loses about the least, but when I spec retribution I put 8 points into holy to get better and less easily interrupted heals.
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Eledhwen
To be honest with you (how do I put this nicely) you are a moron. As a warlock you should be all about kings. Having more stamina is a god sent when you consider that you will be life tapping anyways. Having more intellect also means better critical chance, and even as affliction you are going to have improved shadow bolt if you are talented correctly, and that means you still want to critical as often as possible which makes that increased intellect much nicer.
If you are affliction you get Dark Pact so Life Tapping is a mute point. When I play my affliction Lock I rarely Life Tap. As a healer it drives me crazy when a Lock is constantly Life Tapping. Yes, I like Kings when I play my Warlock. I rarely, if ever run out of mana so BOW doesn't do much for me.
Yes, Kings is a nice buff and since Paladins now come with only two buffs (BOM and BOW) I think Kings should just be the third. Why not? Write a letter to Blizzard and complain about why this isn't so.
If Blizzard would stop spamming the Northrend plate armor with Mp5 and Haste and put in Crit instead then I wouldn't need to put at least 18 points into the Retribution tree and could get Kings. I put the extra two points into Pursuit of Justice because it seems that I'm always having to run and heal and/or run after the tank and getting to where I need to be faster is a good thing.
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beatphreek
If Blizzard would stop spamming the Northrend plate armor with Mp5 and Haste and put in Crit instead then I wouldn't need to put at least 18 points into the Retribution tree and could get Kings.
Please leave my haste itemization alone, thank you.
I like seeing 1.1 second flash and 1.5 second Holy Lights...
P.S. you can carry on with your crusade against Mp5 though... I don't think I'll miss that.
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frago
Wouldnt call myself a holy pally if I had to sacrifice having kings in my build for 3% crit.
Then again I have proper stats and can chain cast Holy Light from the Start of Heroic Patch until the end with no mana problems. 3% crit is for weakling BC era Holy dins who don't know how to properly gem and Enchant. If you dont have kings you are a Bad Holy din and need to roll a DK with the rest of the retards.
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