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Haelbright's RoundPie PVE/P build (Blood/Unholy hybrid) considering 3.0.8. patch
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Post by
Parry
After looking at the new changes of the upcoming patch, i must agree with you in all, basically. I've been always a Blood DK (i like 51/0/20, as simply as that) and the single buff in HS it's gonna help my DPS a lot. Can't wait to test it all!
Post by
pat965
I never tried this in arena, but on normal bg's it works well, especially when you have at least some cooldowns ready. But that's true for almost all classes, so its hard to say. I tend to live quite long, im not feeling squishy or helpless, so it works, i guess.
About the macro - sure i guess, but i really didn't check until now how macro execution does when runes are not ready. You can even make Rune Dump into castsequence (in the places where RP reaches 100) and only fire Sudden Doom triggers manualy.
Well, I prefer /castsequence reset=target/dead
In any case, if you are trying to cast something without the proper runes/runic power, the macro will not proceed until you cast the spell, no matter how many times you hit the button... if anyone knows a way to bypass a spell in the macro then please share
I find that putting in runic dumps or death coils can be a bad thing in macros... sometimes I am forced to use runic power a little earlier, and when I hit the spell that requires runic power in the macro I am handcuffed and need to build up runic power manually, which throws the macro out of order... if you use RP manually, then the only thing you have to wait on are the runes themselves... of course if you use something like mind freeze your macro will also be delayed, but that is what I consider to be an acceptable obstacle (I usually only use macros on standard mobs, ie. nobody I have to interrupt)
I'm also worried that my rotation (and macro) is wrong so I ask for a sample rotation... (for both rotations)
Loving the spec so far btw :D
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Post by
pat965
I've been doing the "disease" rotation and it's working out nicely... oddly enough I am having trouble understanding OBx2 HSx4 though, even though its simpler...
Why is it 4 HS? After the first cycle won't you end up with 4 death runes and 2 blood runes? Would all of those runes be used towards HS? My understanding is that it's...
OB, OB, HS, HS
HS, HS, OB, OB
Repeat
Doesn't this just waste the Death runes for obliterates, instead of Heart Strikes? When I found myself doing the "no disease" rotation, what made sense to me was...
OB, OB, HS, HS
6x HS
Repeat
Isn't the goal just to get in as many Heart Strikes as you can? (Especially after the patch). The reason why I thought that might not be the rotation is because runic dumps and using up all the runes is difficult, but with Unholy presence it's very possible... however, many people dismiss unholy presence as inferior, I found it to be quite good for keeping up rotations and RP use, and improved my overall DPS...
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Post by
race01
just armory'd you and i noticed that you dropped points from blood aura and mark of blood and placed it to rune tap and imp rune tap. why? is the one you're using better than the build you posted here?
another question, does blood aura stack w/ blood presence?
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Post by
maxximos
Ok guys, few questions here:
Keep in mind, I'm trying to make a Dps (high end) spec that can also Off-Tank whenever needed!
Now, I'm still staying within the blood tree here but what's wrong with
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0IsbRtzAo0xZfM0hx
?
In this one, you get all the goodies for your raid party plus, you get the rune sword (same as gargy for extra dps) BUT... I think if you are going for Blood Gorged, you need Rune Tap along with Vampiric Blood to keep your health above 75% for it to work correctly. So, it doesn't really make sense without Rune Tap (unless you can prove me wrong). Plus, you get toughness with this one (I dont know if it's really needed that bad)
Let's say you want to get Rune Tap for that purpose...
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqh0IcbRtzAo0xZfM0hx
This one gives you Rune Tap and a full 5 points into Necrosis but you don't get Mark of Blood :( (very useful for tanks in your raid and for dps). Which one is better?
And, is your spec (
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0IsbRtzhZZfM0htfkM0o
) still better than both? Does the ghoul give you that much more dps rather than the talents from the 2 previous specs?
And finally, what about glyphs? What do you think we should use for Blood Spec?
Post by
race01
Lots of people, and myslef (when leveling) likes Rune Tap alot, so, as im always testing, i wanted to really combare it to the MoB+VB combo. For now, it does fairly good in pvp - but while being useful, it doesn't win me some fights as the combo does. Besides, after the patch VB will give us 20% of temporal health, so it will be batter then RT. So
for now
its choice between strong "sometimes" and mediocre "always".
Aura does not stack with presence, but will give you health in Frost Presence, and will greatly boost your team healers mana pool whatever presence you are using.
so why not just combine RT with MoB+VB combo?
maybe this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqG0IobRtzhZZfM0htfkM0o
or this
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqG0Isb0tzhZZfM0htfkM0o
or even this?
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqI0IobMtzhZZfM0htfkM0o
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Post by
maxximos
I think I'm going to go with your first spec...
I'm still confused about the rotation.
I kinda want to use diseases to add to the dps a little.. how exactly would i go about doing that?
IT,PS,HS,HS,DC,OB,OB then repeat or what?
Oh, and where does death strike fall into this?
Post by
pat965
The first post (or one of the first posts) tells you 2 rotations... the one you're looking for is...
PS, IT, HS, HS, OB, RP Dump
PS, IT, HS, HS, HS, HS, RP Dump
PS and IT are interchangeable, and preferably before you use your first OB you wait a bit for diseases to tick, and so that you can use OB and then refresh diseases right after (but make sure GCD doesn't interfere with the smoothness of your rotations)
Post by
Kurtosis
very interesting, /bookmark. Thx for the work and the post Hael.
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