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Golite
...k lets end this, allie rogues suck? yes. there racial ability can only help if there fighting another rogue 1v1. now how often is that unless your dueling another player in your faction.
undead no doubt the best racial for all out pvp. to resist shadow damage and have wotf is phenomenal. plus to eat the lame ass alliance, zomg, cannibalism is kickass. i smile everytime i eat your dead ally body.
troll is best for pve for the berserk, only thing thats good for in pvp is...well almost pointless. (i say that cause you have slice and dice, and blade flurry if your combat, i say berserk is better for warriors and shaman)
BE can silence, pointless against rogues in 1v1, but great for pvp. nothings better than using our silence attack to kill your fear, or healing.
orc has enrage. which is nice, but in pvp, healing is nice to. so orc 1v1 is best.
and resist stuns is mighty beneficial.
it sounds to me, that you guys think that gnomes and humans and NE are best....id say only for 1v1. sure they have lil things like the gnomes escape artist...aka similar to cloak of shadows and imp sprint, hmm dont need that, plus gnomes arent meant for rogues, i mean, ya greater intelligence is sweet for us right? and for those who say that gnomes are hard to target, there hard to see, you cant get us were small in size blah blah blah. a smart pvper knows better than you fall for your so called...mind tricks of your itty bittiness. look a smart pvper will use TAB for auto targeting, or i changed mine to F since its easier to hit while running and stealthing to find any1. sure, if you use your mouse to try to click you...ya, it will be hard to target you. but guess what ALLIES, HORDE USES AUTOTARGET, ZOMG NO WAAAAY. only alliance cant think of using autotarget. all the gnomes have increased intelligence...HA...no.
humans expertise rating. eh in the end...is it that big of a difference, i mean im sure its helpful, if i ever see that many human rogues after me than ill be worried. id say humans are best for a rogue as an ally...but better than horde?.....nahhhhhh
dwarf...turn to stone. look if you have to get rid of some poisons so you can vanish, that just means your almost dead, and if, like me, wont stop til you are dead....wahts the point, im going to find your low life ass. you lost, it wont help. and finding treasure...seriously who gives a rats ass.
NE has a dodge increase, which is nice if your lvl 1-10. that little increase...well all rogues have great dodge rating....and zomg 1 lvl of better stealth. blah. doesnt help much.
and the best part is...the way the ally rogues move in stealth. dwarfs and gnomes...haha they move like goofballs. i love stealthing when i go through the transformer thing and turns me into a lil christmas gnome. i get a good laugh when i see lil nubby feet. NE are freaken linebackers and looks like they have a stick up there ass. humans actually arent as bad as the rest. not funny but not cool. there like the nerds of the ally. i say best stealth form is BE Male. they look like they are going to mess some1 up the way they stealth and move. and when there idle, its badass looking.
all in all...if you want a good laugh at how funny rogues move and how pointless there racials really are...choose ally.
I smell a troll... "NO LoL im BE kekz". Yes, I got that. But that was still a redundant rant by someone who obviously has no clue about other races, or just is way too fascinated by the metro sexual look of his own sweet-ass male Blood Elf.
Both Remx and kicklucky said it well. Racials don't make or break the rogue class. All racials are situational, some are just better for some situations and some people don't realize this until they're in that specific situation. I bet some of you people have been pretty ticked off about not being able to remove that Deep Wound or Devouring Plague that keeps getting you out of Vanish, even though you blew your CloS.
All racials have a use and none of them suck, imo. You just have to find the right use for them.
And like several other people said, choose your race by the look and feel of it, rather than its stats and abilities, then adapt to the abilities of the race you chose. That worked well for me and I still love my itty bitty dwarf rogue after almost 3 years of playing him :)
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Remx
I smell a troll... "NO LoL im BE kekz". Yes, I got that. But that was still a redundant rant by someone who obviously has no clue about other races, or just is way too fascinated by the metro sexual look of his own sweet-ass male Blood Elf.
Both Remx and kicklucky said it well. Racials don't make or break the rogue class. All racials are situational, some are just better for some situations and some people don't realize this until they're in that specific situation. I bet some of you people have been pretty ticked off about not being able to remove that Deep Wound or Devouring Plague that keeps getting you out of Vanish, even though you blew your CloS.
All racials have a use and none of them suck, imo. You just have to find the right use for them.
And like several other people said, choose your race by the look and feel of it, rather than its stats and abilities, then adapt to the abilities of the race you chose. That worked well for me and I still love my itty bitty dwarf rogue after almost 3 years of playing him :)
/sigh yes...i do agree to choose looks...and the way a character feels for you.
when i read that first line i knew right away you were alliance, cause only alliance will say that all rogues are good, i was expecting a comeback but instead i got a pitty for all ally rogues instead...
why is the allies so sensitive about making fun of the hordes rogues, cause they know there better? dont defend all rogues, yes im a ..."rogue lover" to. and i wouldnt choose to hit 70 first in any other class, but im still loyal to the horde and ally rogues just cant compare to how awesome a horde rogue is. alliance just needs to give up on what there trying to defend and just say it, ally rogues cant compete with the greatness of horde rogues.
(not narcing you golite) :D i love all who love rogues.
without rogue lovers, i wouldnt have fun. esepecially some1 as old as 2004...i mean damn i just started september....lol.
Horde rogues are not inherently better than alliance rogues. The only real determinate of superiority is player skill. Gear and racials can help, but they don't make the rogue better by nature. As Golite said, all races have racials that can be used to great effect when the situation calls for it. Saying that one faction has all of the best races for one class is idiotic.
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razzem
I smell a troll... "NO LoL im BE kekz". Yes, I got that. But that was still a redundant rant by someone who obviously has no clue about other races, or just is way too fascinated by the metro sexual look of his own sweet-ass male Blood Elf.
Both Remx and kicklucky said it well. Racials don't make or break the rogue class. All racials are situational, some are just better for some situations and some people don't realize this until they're in that specific situation. I bet some of you people have been pretty ticked off about not being able to remove that Deep Wound or Devouring Plague that keeps getting you out of Vanish, even though you blew your CloS.
All racials have a use and none of them suck, imo. You just have to find the right use for them.
And like several other people said, choose your race by the look and feel of it, rather than its stats and abilities, then adapt to the abilities of the race you chose. That worked well for me and I still love my itty bitty dwarf rogue after almost 3 years of playing him :)
/sigh yes...i do agree to choose looks...and the way a character feels for you.
when i read that first line i knew right away you were alliance, cause only alliance will say that all rogues are good, i was expecting a comeback but instead i got a pitty for all ally rogues instead...
why is the allies so sensitive about making fun of the hordes rogues, cause they know there better? dont defend all rogues, yes im a ..."rogue lover" to. and i wouldnt choose to hit 70 first in any other class, but im still loyal to the horde and ally rogues just cant compare to how awesome a horde rogue is. alliance just needs to give up on what there trying to defend and just say it, ally rogues cant compete with the greatness of horde rogues.
(not narcing you golite) :D i love all who love rogues.
without rogue lovers, i wouldnt have fun. esepecially some1 as old as 2004...i mean damn i just started september....lol.
Horde rogues are not inherently better than alliance rogues. The only determinate of superiority is individual skill, not racials.
Well said, and true of all classes (not that you have a choice with druid...).
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Remx
I'm not calling you an idiot, I'm just pointing out that you used a pretty idiotic argument against Golite. I'm a horde rogue too, and proud to be mind you, but I know my racials alone won't make me better than any given alliance rogue. I think you'd find it quite insulting if someone suggested that they were better than you just because they rolled a gnome and you didn't, right?
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faia
all got good points what ever race
Human= beter with mace and sword so you hit better and a pers ability that lets you see other stealth much beter
Dwarf= stone form! whoos with all the bad bleedings from warrior or poison from other rouges
Gnome= underated but awsome! escape artist is gold! save you Insigna for fear and stuff while escape from the frost nova! (another note, they MUCH harder to click on if you run around and
hit+ its funny to be)
Night Elf = beter stealth from shadowmeld si great and 1 % more dodge , not need to say more
Orc = the king of Combat spec , resit against stun and diso a bit (you will feel it when you see them fail the cheap shot or the damn wingclip + badase Ap bonus (bloodrage) care about the 50% less healing, not like healers rly care about us in fight anyway
Troll= beter throw (feel this on deadly throw later) and berserk, one way you can max you speed if you are combat spec + regen in combat! not big bbut can save you ase if you gauge or cheap shot (the 10 hp you just regen can be between life or death)
Undead= a the famous! Will of forsaken king of warlocks nightmare, and canibalise to save you bandage fee! one i recomand extremes(Note female got nifty Ninja moves when she do skills or finnishign move )
Blood elf= the race who got called noob when they see you as rouge, but arcane torrent and mana tap is Godly(not imba anyway) 30 more energi when you silence the caster? that one nice kidney shot! don't look down on the devils
but most importen, A LOOK you will like to play
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Post by
mikolaj73
Gnomes are the best rogues! No one can deny that. Just think of it, they are hard to see and can run away from any situation (escape artist). The escape artist is also nice in PvP. When some mage gets you frozen and starts casting a slow but deathly spell, you EA, sprint, kick, /laugh and beat the hell out of him/her (damn if blink isn't on CD).
Lol. Gnomes is the most retarded-looking race in WoW and no one can deny THAT. Both caster and melee gnomes are laughed at, they're the ones that are being /lol'ed in bgs after dieing or even during a fight.
As for alliance, NE is the b3st choice for a rogue. Just think... warrior, rogue, druid (feral) and hunter are all dodge- and crit dependant, so blizzard gave them appropriate melee racials. Priest is the only caster class for NE, so it would be retarded to roll a NE priest, with no racials supporting it... Faster corpse walking is for PVE only, and only if you're dead, so no pvp bonus here.
And some ppl say that gnomes are hard to be targetted. These ppl are retarded and have no idea about the TAB key. The only reasonable choice for a gnome would be a warlock, but still wasting time on leveling a gnome and then wasting time on gearing him/her is a... waste of time lol.
Dont roll a gnome, save that last spot in your character list for a death knight (god forbid a gnome) and pick either NE, humans or cool-looking draenei. Dwarf rogues (appearance-wise) can be compared to orc rogues, which is just... <sigh> riddiculous. If an orc can be a rogue, why the hell not a draenei?
So, for my conclussion, since this is a rogue topic, I'd suggest NE for alliance, undead for horde. Next in the queue would be human and BE. Gnomes should be replaced by furbolgs or whatever. No gnomes in WoW. Period. Cheers.
Post by
HigginZ
so it would be retarded to roll a NE priest, with no racials supporting it...
NE priests still get shadowmeld which can be used to throw off opponents, especialy in arena (who expects the priest to be stealthed!!) and that starshards spell.. whatever it is/does.. rollin a NE priest isnt SO bad.. but i wouldnt do it.. wait.. this is the rogue forum doh!
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Remx
Rogues are not exactly dodge dependent. Night elves do not have a crit racial either.
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Remx
Shadowmeld does actually give stealth a passive bonus.
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Remx
That's easily one of the most retarded posts I've seen on these forums Jreaper.
1st- NE shadow meld DOES NOT affect stealth. It is a totally dfferent thing you might as well get over it.
For your information, shadowmeld
does
grant a passive stealth bonus.
2nd- stone form and escaper artist (dwarf and gnomes ) , if you are at a point that you need to use these racial abilities then you are not skilled enough to roll a rogue to begin with ;), the only thing you need to protect yourself from is fear *(i will get back to that later)
That's complete rubbish. By that very same logic, if I'm at the point where I need to use will of the forsaken to break a fear then I'm not skilled enough to roll a rogue to begin with.
3rd- YOU DO NOT NEED PERCEPTION you are the one that is in stealth. so humans are out.
Don't be so narrow-minded, it's godly against druids and other rogues, especially in the arena.
4th- orc = strong but oo big for a rogue
Compelling argument.
5th- trolls are too tall and berserker only useful in cases where your HP is low which is quite redundant since we rogues dnt have high armor so at this point (low hp) you are better off vanishing ... (the way of the rogue)
Berserking is great for PVE, and
is
often useful in PVP. Too tall? I suppose gnomes are too small, blood elves are too effeminate, humans are too plain, night elves are too thin, dwarves are too fat, but bony old undead are fine because THEY'RE LEIK TOTALLY OSSUM MIRITE?
6th- kick, gouge, kidney shot all silence, no need for another silence if you really need more than these three than you are taking too much time to kill which is YOUR gearing/skill problem so BE racial... that helpfull
Flawless logic, except for the part where you inferred an extra silence was useless because if you can't 100-0 a caster during a stun-lock then you're not killing them quick enough.
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