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Help with DPS in heroics/raids!
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Post by
Darkprodigy
Ok here is the deal, my gear is ok, not great but ok. Here is my spec
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000020500331130200000000000000005033015220031251035031051
My stats are- 1800 spellpower, 21% crit, 124 hit, 200 haste. I realize my hit is low but atm just doing heroics and getting hit.
Its not totally pve but im thinking about going full PVE so anyone can help w/ a good high dps spec.
My problem is that w/ my gear and spec i have about 1500-1600 dps depending if im full concentrated. My cycle on bosses is-Curse of elements, corruption (for molten core proc), immolate, chaos bolt, incinerate until immolate is about to run out then conflagrate and repeat.
I realize this is a long post and any comments or help on each of these subjects will be extremely helpful rather it be talents/gear/spell cycle.
Post by
Doten
with that stats i would go affli till you get capped and get some better gear
Post by
ShiftError
Felguar/Emberstorm is a top dps PvE spec atm. I get up to 3k dps on bosses in 10 man if my pet stays alive.
Link to spec:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000020501301135202150013500100005033015220031050000000000
My gear is not to good, a bit better than yours though. 1900+ spell dmg, 29% crit, 375 hit and 440 haste. (More dmg and less hit in heroics though)
Post by
Darkprodigy
That felguard/emberstorm spec looks like a BM spec for hunters which ive noticed is good dps, I'll try that spec out, thanks
Ok ive tried it out and my dps is 2200-2400 :DDD tyvm, also is their a certain cycle to use? im just keeping corruption and immolate up while incinerating
Post by
ShiftError
Also keep Curse of Agony up for more procs on Molten Core.
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Post by
Lockster
Can you link the spec pls Imbadina, and what is the rotation for this build?
Thanks
Post by
asakawa
imbadine, you've been rolling with some dreadful players.
with current gear levels i don't believe the a heavy destro spec will beat other warlock specs but it definitely won't beat a reasonably skilled hunter.
the problem is you tell us what happens in your raids and expect us to believe it's indicative of how things work game-wide. it's a very subjective point of view and is almost unique (as far as i've seen) in saying deep destro is best.
...all of which leads me to discount it.
you should leave the superlatives at home until you find a way to back up your claims in an objective way.
btw, some people like fg/ember but 90% of wws reports show affliction warlocks doing higher dps.
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Post by
asakawa
hehe, just flavour of the month i think. last month it was affliction. next month it'll be destro. maybe things'll settle down after that.
Post by
Darkprodigy
Well I've been using the felguard/emberstorm spec and it is a little too reliant on the pet for my taste so I may try the affliction spec where u throw dots up and shadow bolt spam.
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Post by
xunr3alx
i use
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZcxczsgMV0oZVcGVr0uVoA
as my spec. and im usually in the top 5 dps in my naxx runs. i was the feltard/ember spec for a while and the other lock was trying this spec out so i did. its slightly better cause of SNF which is great. and the imp does good dmg while giving me the 5% fire dmg buff when hes active. im also hit capped. so no misses here :D
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Post by
Al4mir
btw, some people like fg/ember but 90% of wws reports show affliction warlocks doing higher dps.
and after all, a "hardly" rotation for maximize dps, forever will be funnier than an, old, sb spamming or a 2xDots + the, horrible, incinerate spam.
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Post by
asakawa
Now I'm not one to dig up one day old bull #$%^, but I can't let it stay hidden in this case. 3k dps spamming shadow bolt is not possible in ANY WAY.
lol, yes i think you're right to bring this up.
3k dps just spamming SBs would mean hitting an average of 7.5k on each shadow bolt!
well, this guy says he has 2kSP so this is out of the question.
the problem is that if a poster inflates numbers like this it just weakens any point they may actually have to make because everyone discounts it as ridiculous. so, manxam1234, post less crap and we might actually take heed.
...though no promises, anyone advocating SB spam with the current talent trees is clearly mad.
Post by
Blightman
I´ve also done hours and hours of dps testing with all kind of speccs and the result has always been the same. I run my tests by doing a 3 min fight on a dummie 10 times at each specc then I take the average from those 10 fights and compare to other speccs. Fel/ember can´t keep up with a heavy destro build, nor can an affli build.
Now the lesser affliction results isn´t really compareable with a destro or destro/demo specc since, affli cant put up that raw nuke dps that those builds can. Aflliction strength comes in "live" fights where its mobility can make it superior destro on some encounters. With that said, a comparsion between fel/ember towards a deep destro specc on dummies is very reliable since both they speccs work with the same immoblie mechanics and therefore none of the speccs has an advantage towards the other when it comes to different encounters.
Another sidenote regarding my affliction tests is that my gear is very well balanced for a destro or demo/destro specc. I surely would have choosen another gear approach with a affliction specc.
Another side note on affliction testing, dummies don't drop below 25% health so your testing won't reflect the massive DPS that an affliction lock can do with
Drain Soul
. 9k-11k every tick(3s).
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